Invisible Presence Within You Is Ultimate Truth

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Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj November 29, 2017.

So, the basic principle behind that: you have to be out of all these illusory concepts, you are formless, you are unborn, it’s a fact. So, body is a media and as you know, the body is having time limit. You were a child, and you have become young man, now old man, and some or other day, willingly or unwillingly, you will have to leave the body. So, it is a fact. Even if you think logically or intellectually: body is not identity at all. How you are prior to body and how you will be after leaving the body? That indication, that Reality, Master is placing before you and is inviting the attention of the invisible Listener within you. That “you are Brahman, you are Master, you are everything, you are almighty God”. Almighty God means Ultimate Truth, except your selfless Self there is no God. So, in the beginning till you get Conviction, you have to exercise meditation, Bhajans and all these things. Afterwards it will be spontaneous. Even though you are holding body, you remain unconcerned with the world. What is the world? When did you come across the world? The moment awakening is there, the moment the Spirit clicked with the body, you see “I”, and immediately with the experience of “I”, entire world is projected. Where was that world prior to the Beingness? After leaving the body where is the world? That means: entire world is illusion. Illusionary world disappears with illusions. To say “I” is illusion, to “you” is illusion, to say “Brahman” is illusion, entire world is illusion. So, in the illusionary world, whether you are realized or enlightened is meaningless. But, for the sake of understanding, we say “you are realized”, “enlightened”, “you have got lot of knowledge”, etc., etc. So “spiritual Master” are also illusionary words. But, the spiritual Master is placing you before the Listener’s Presence which is called “Brahman”. So be with you all the time. Because again I am repeating: the human body is a golden opportunity for you, though it is not your identity, through human body, you can identify yourself. Because the invisible Presence within the body is Ultimate Truth. So, if you go on talking spirituality, theory, practice that is meaningless. Not to read any Vedas, nothing to do, because it indicates your unidentified identity that you are. So, the glimpses of “I” within the body is called Ultimate Truth, through which you are experiencing “I”. Prior to “I”, your Presence was there, after leaving the body your Presence will be there. Prior to being Presence, your Presence was there, so all the time Presence is not going anywhere, just like space or sky. If you go in America, sky is same, if you go to China, sky is same. So like that, the Presence within the body is one and the same, there is no difference. And then, after Conviction, Nama Mantra is also illusion, meditation is also illusion, but Nama Mantra is required till you get spontaneous Conviction: “I am nothing to do with the body, though I am holding the body, I am totally different from the body, I am formless”. That spontaneous experience, that spontaneous feeling is supposed to appear within you, for which you are doing all these things, meditation and all. Bhajan is creating spiritual atmosphere within you. Meditation is also one of the parts through which you get Conviction. So, these are the various disciplines, spiritual disciplines you have to follow, in the beginning only. Until you go out of these illusionary concepts. This is a dream; human life is a dream. When are in a dream, you say everything is Reality. After awakening, you say it was all a dream. Similarly, so far, we are holding the body, we feel that everything is true. After leaving the body, what is the true and false? Nothing. Prior to Beingness, nothing true, nothing false. There is no “I”, there is no “you”, “he”, “she”, “it”, nothing is there. So, everything came out of nothing, everything dissolves within nothing. Where do you stand? What is your position in the world? You may be a great philosopher, you may be a great master, you are a small person, one and the same. Not gaining so much effects. So try to understand, try to identify yourself. Who is listening from this body? Who is experiencing from the body? Who is watching dreams from the body? Who is doing actions from the body? Like that you start Self-enquiry. Self- enquiry leads to Self-knowledge, Self-knowledge leads to Self- realization. These are the stages, just for understanding purpose. So, don’t say “I have to realize, I have to attain enlightenment”, these are the words. As such, there is no “realization” or “enlightenment”. These are the concepts, spiritual concepts within the span of the body knowledge. But, you have to do it very seriously, don’t neglect it, there should not be any wavering mind, there should not be any temptation to go anywhere. Beyond this, nothing is there in the world. If you go on changing the various Masters, visiting so many temples, nothing is going to happen, it is waste of time. You visit your own temple within you. God is within you, God is not separate from you, Master is not separate from you. Bodies are different, Presence is one and the same. Invisible Presence within the body is one and the same. It is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, that you are. What more do you want? Nothing is there.

Q: (inaudible)

Maharaj: There is no future, no present, no past. Just for understanding I have to use some words. Don’t analyze my words. What I want to convey is most important. “Prior to beingness”, “after leaving the body”, these are the words. Through which I am trying to indicate that: Except your Selfless Self, nothing is there. Your Presence was there prior to Beingness, after leaving the body your Presence will be there, at present Presence is there. You are talking literally, “my Presence, your Presence”, there is no “my”, “you”, “she”, “it”, nothing is there. Is your body yours? To say “my”, to say “I”, some power is required, some energy is required. Have you got any individual identity to say “I” or to say “my”? Nothing is there. Everything came out of nothing, so, since you are holding the body, you have got some ego that “I am somebody else”, out of that somebody else, these questions are there. There is no “my”, “I”, “he”, “she”, “it”, nothing is there. There is no existence. You are considering in body form, you are formless. How you are prior to Beingness? “I” is there? “my” is there? “He”, “she”, “it” is there? Nothing is there, no God is there, no Master is there. After leaving the body, what remains? Nothing. “I don’t know” is correct. When you say, “I don’t know”, that means: “I am not in form”. I give the example: when you are alone in the house, somebody knocks on the door, somebody is shouting from outside “anybody is there?”, you say “nobody is there”. That means you are there! When you say, “I don’t know”, it means your Presence is there.

Q: Yes, but “I don’t know” maybe it is nothing also.

Maharaj: Yes, everything is come out of nothing, it is an illusionary world, in dream you see many things, what is true? What is false? After awakening, what is the true thing, what is the false thing in the dream? It is a dream. This is also dream, but you are treating dream as a real dream. There is no real or there is no unreal. No true, no false. Totally nothing. In this illusionary world, everything is nothing. These are illusionary bodies, a concept. Therefore, I am insisting: not to measure yourself in the body-form, not to count yourself in body form, there is no body at all. Body is not your identity, body was not your identity, body is not going to remain identity. To say “I”, some Presence is required, power is required, energy is required. I am talking about that energy through which you are talking “I”, if there is no energy in the body, how can you say “I”, “you”, “he”, “she”, “it”, nothing. Dead body can’t say “I”, dead body can’t say “my”, to say “my”, “I”, “him”, these are the words. Not to play with the words, spirituality is also illusion. But through illusion, we have to remove another illusion. Therefore, I mention that “realization”, “enlightenment”, these are the words. There is no such “enlightenment” or “realization”. Where are the realization, enlightenment prior to the Beingness? Prior to Beingness do you know whether you are realized or not? So, these are the words in human form, but through words we are trying to indicate that except your Selfless Self, nothing is there. We have created the language just for understanding, just to convince yourself. It is addressed to the invisible Listener within you, invisible Presence within you is Ultimate Truth. For which, you have to undergo strict meditation. Without meditation, it is not possible for you to identify yourself. Only literal knowledge, dry knowledge, or say, comparative knowledge, analytical knowledge, it is meaningless.

Q: Is it necessary to read scriptures?

Maharaj: You can read it! No problem, but while reading just find out who is the Reader. It is the Reader’s information. Not to read some theoretical, which is insisting on some “Karma”, “do this Karma, do that Karma”, because you are not the doer, there is no deed. Some books are insisting on Parayana (reading Scriptures), try to know Narayana (Self), not Parayana. Only Parayana will not serve your purpose. Some people are insisting on doing Parayana of this Grantha (holy book), that Grantha, why to do Parayana, see the Narayana within you, hmm? You are keeping aside Narayana and you are doing Parayana, it is meaningless. It is the story of the Narayana, not Parayana. You are itself is a Narayana, Narayana is Ultimate Truth, great God. It should not be analytical study, with the various words, we are placing various words before you, not to analyze, not to try and define the words. Try to find out the Listener: who is listening from this? Body is not listening. If there is no Presence in the body, who listens to the Master? When you see the Master, Seer is there. Seer is having the most importance. The invisible Seer within you is the Master of Masters. If there is no Seer within the body, who knows what is the Master and who is the disciple? “Disciple”, “Masters”, “God”, “deity” or “devotee”, all these are concepts appearing within the human form. We have created the language, we have given the meaning of every word, not to analyze the words, not to make comparison of various Masters. I am repeatedly telling you: “why this Master said like this, why this Master said…?” What do you want out of that? Where do you stand? “Why Ramana Maharshi said like this, why Nisargadatta Maharaj said like this?” Not make comparative study of all this Masters. What they want to indicate is most important. The common message of all Masters is: Except yourself, there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, you are Master, you are Brahman, you are Ultimate Truth. Don’t count yourself in body form. Body form is not your Reality, therefore you are unborn, no birth, no death. You are Final Truth. This is a last terminal, not to go here and there.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj