Experience Is Just Like Chocolate

Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj February 22, 2012.

What is your experience?

Q: He thought a lot about Nisargadatta Maharaj Samadhi place. He thought that he would come to Samadhi and some experience would happen. But nothing happened. And he does not like at all Swami Ram Dass Samadhi. He does not like Ram Dass Swami Samadhi at all.

Why?

He feels something strange, something from outside, not close to him. But he was not dissapointed about it. Because it is so, just so.

What of Tukaram Maharaj, Jnaneshwar Maharaj?

On the energy level Jnaneshwar Samadhi was very interesting to him.

All Saints are within you. No experience is experience. No experience is also an experience. Because, your name is Ellis, so have you got any experience, ‘I am Ellis’? That means you are one with the spirit. When you are having experience, that means you are totally separate from that. It’s a good sign. Because your experience and experiencer dissolves together. It’s fact.

Yesterday you talked about expectations, and he expected from the whole pilgrimage, the main expectation was Nisargadatta Maharaj Samadhi. And nothing happened.

Don’t worry about it. Because always, see, the experience and experiencer, these are not the same. It means. Electricity is lighting. Light and electricity is one and the same. The light is just the instrument. The electricity reflects, this to light this place. Similarly, your energy or power reflects through this body. With that body some layers of experiences are appearing. But, without your presence the layers, you can’t visualize. Always you keep in mind, that without your appearance, without your existence, you can’t see anything.

When you are talking about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Masters for which body media is required. When we are not having body association we are not knowing what is Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, what is experience, what is non experience, what is good thing, what is bad thing, nothing was known.

Sensations, expectations, good feelings, are just like chocolate. When a small child is not studying, parents are showing ‘Oh if you read this lesson, I will give you this chocolate.’ To have that chocolate that child, that boy, is reading those books. Experience is just like a chocolate. Master is giving some experience, but it is not Ultimate thing. Some miracles happen, some changes also happen.

When I was at Bapoli there was a call from Shaman person from Deli, elder, older person from Delhi. You know Shaman? He called me about quarter to twelve. Something happened and he was not able to tolerate it. A little bit some imbalance inside had taken over and he was upset. ‘How is this happening?’ So I told him to call in the morning, I could not talk right now, in the morning. I called in the morning, ok, something had subsided. Why am I explaining this? Because, in this spirituality, some unpleasant experience is also happening inside. Not to take note of such an experience. Even after having Ultimate knowledge sometimes some incident is taking place inside, that you feel something…scared. Some kind of fear will be coming in mind. In that moment you should be very, strong enough. At that time you remember whatever you listened to today. Therefore your knowledge is supposed to be constructive knowledge, strong knowledge.

This is not just an exchange of words, spiritual words to you. This is not bookish knowledge. Words are only just to explain your identity. Just to remove your body attachment. We are having strong body attachment. Even though we are talking about the spirituality, philosophy, Atman, Brahman, attachment with the body is very strong. We are thinking from that point of view only. The moment your body attachment dissolves, you are totally fearless. Any kind of difficulty, unpleasant atmosphere appears before you, you totally remain untouched with that atmosphere. My effort is, to make you strong. Therefore Nisargadatta Maharaj rightly says ‘I want to make you Master, not disciple.’ Sense of Master, sense of God, sense of Brahman, is already within you. But because of strong attachment to the body you forgot your identity. We in effect are repeatedly hammering that. Same thing through your Mantra, hammering that you are not a body, you are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, Master. As I told earlier that spirit is so sensitive the impression which you impress it reflects accordingly. So the moment that body attachment dissolves you can see yourself in a real sense. So don’t worry. Don’t expect any experience. No experience, means also experience. When one Saint told his disciple,disciple asked ‘How is God?’ So he told ‘Close your eyes. What do you see?’ He responds ‘Nothing’ ‘That is God’

Sri Ramakant Maharaj