The body is not your identity at all. Unless you accept the Reality that “the body is not your identity”, the experience of a body-form will continue to appear upon your Presence. These concepts create so much confusion, and then, the mind raises all sorts of questions. So many questions keep arising, and they are all body-based questions! I receive so many questions from seekers, and they are always body-based concepts. Melt, dissolve, demolish all your body-based concepts. This is the primary task at hand. Your problems are all body-related, arising from this human life that is only a dream: depression, worry, sadness, loneliness, feeling unloved, fearfulness, stress, dispeace, unhappiness, misery, etc, etc. We have become fearful of everything. We behave like sheep, instead of lions! We have a lot of tension. There is no peacefulness, or blissfulness. And, we are always fearful of death. All these illusory concepts are to be demolished. Demolish all your concepts! This is the main goal of spirituality.
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Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Ultimate Truth
Q: What is the meaning of beyond time and space?
M:Time and space we created, no time no space is there. No meaning is there, everything is meaningless. Yourself, myself the entire world is meaningless. Entire world is illusion. Who has created time? After having touched with the body you say ‘This is time, this is space, this is east, this is west’, no meaning is there. Though no words are there, there is no meaning. Your Absolute everywhere you are. Beyond sky, your Presence is beyond sky, no meaning is there. Meaning is also giving some limitations.
For discussion it is OK. No time limit, no border limit, no meaning is there. You see within your Selfless Self, nothing is there. Just some way, some subtle way say ‘I’. Without having any shape. The wave does not have any shape. The experience I have is because of body base, if body is not there who will talk about the I? If body is not there, who will talk about the ‘I’, ‘You’, ‘He”, ‘She’, ‘It’, nothing is there. Nisargadatta Maharaj says ‘If you want to compare, compare just like the sky’, sky does not have it’s own feeling. Birth, death, meaning, time limit, nothing is there. We created a circle, we created so many concepts, ok, using say, human life, all conditions and meanings are there. All science is there, spiritual science is there, religions are there, it is an illusory world. That is what is ‘Shivoham’ no master, no brother, no disciple, nothing is there. It is easy to say but you need to have spontaneous conviction. It is open fact. After leaving body where is the meaning? As long as we are living in the body as a man or woman, ‘somebody else’ all these concepts are there. When did concepts come across, when you came across with the body, if there is no body, no concepts are there. I’m inviting attention of that Ultimate Truth. Listeners truth.
Q: Prior to beingness, it doesn’t seem, there is nothing Maharaj.
M: Yes, of course, nothing, to know nothing, all this everything is there. I told you everything came out of nothing, everything dissolves within nothing. Just for discussion purpose we are refreshing the Reality. Because you forgot your identity, it is not your fault. Because of long association with the body, you forgot your identity under the pressure of man, woman, some concepts are there, all concepts came along with the body and will dissolve along with the body. Entire world is illusion, nothing is there. Brahman is illusion, Atman is illusion, Paramatman, Master and Disciple is illusion. Siddharameshwar Maharaj says ‘To teach you something I have to take ego as a master’ without ego I can’t talk with you. There is no difference between you and me, but you are posing as a man ‘somebody else’, you have to change your views. There should be conviction, ‘I am nothing to do with the world’.
Q: What do you mean by idendity? Unidentified, but you said it is identity?
M: Presence is there. Without your knowledge, some Presence is there. Therefore, unidentified, invisble annonymous identity. Listen to my words, how I define. It is unidentified, invisble identity – you can’t see, annonymous – there is no name, you can’t define it. Pure Presence, Presence is nameless, without form, it cannot be defined with any words. Therefore we say unidentified idenity, annonymous identity, invisble identity. You can’t guess.
Q: Maharaj, does it indicate itself?
M: Selfless Self. You say ‘self’ it is having some color of ego, when you say ‘self’ there is some color of ego. It is Selfless Self.
Q: Yes, so ‘self’ without ego?
M: Sellfess Self, there is no ego, no mind there is no intellect. There is no ‘I’ there is no ‘You’ nothing is there.
There’s no limitations. Body is having limitation. With these various words we are trying to convince except yourself nothing is there in the world. Who says ‘I’? To say ‘I’ to say ‘you’ some identity is required. For discussion purposes, you have to take the help of some words. Spiritual words. Just to convince that Invisible Identity, which can not be defined in words. So the source of the entire world is within you only, not in the form of body. But because of long association with the body, and so called mind, and ego and intellect. You forgot your identity. Started thinking I am a man or woman. ‘I am knowledge’, ‘I am Brahamn’, ‘I am Atman’, ‘I am Paramatman, God or Master’. All these terminologies started.
As a matter of fact, these terminologies, these terminologies are within the space of time, of I am, from childhood until today. Prior to childhood, when your not knowing yourself, there is no I am, there is no Brahman, there is no Atman, there is no Paramatman,there is no Master, nothing. After leaving this body, there is no experiencer, there is no experience,there is no identity,there is no consciousness, there is no awareness, nothing is there.
Q: I can compare it is like a hole in the ice, I was covered in ice and you break the hole.
Don’t apply your intellect, don’t make deliberate effort, what I told is Ultimate, is your identity, spontaneous identity, invisible identity. I try to explain, in some words, words have no meaning, just to convey, because without words I can’t convey you. So I am taking the help of them, but as a matter of fact, nothing is there, except yourself. It’s open truth. All our discussions, even spiritual discussion, high level discussions, discussions about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, these are only dry discussions. We can go on discussing hours together their is no meaning, out of discussion, what is the conclusion.
Q: No conclusion.
Conclusion is that, except yourself nothing is there. All spiritual books, all the discussion, all this information,with various sources, what they indicate, is except that Unidentified, Spontaneous, Anonymous, Invisible Identity, nothing is there.So be calm and quiet. You do your job, spirituality is not disturbing your routine life. It’s not something, what happens, I am going to die, no. But, at Ultimate stage you are totally fearless, there won’t be any type of tension, there is no question of happiness or unhappiness.All these terminologies, connected with the body form only. When there is conviction ‘I am not body, I was not body, I am not going to remain body,then why should I be bothered about any of this atmosphere?’
Q: To survive.
OK, therefore Siddharameshwar Maharaj rightly says “This is little carrot, so far you can play, you play, otherwise you can eat it.” So, with various words, various terminologies, with various
information,trying to convince, Silent, Invisible, Anonymous, Spontaneous, Listener, everything behind, Your Spontaneous Presence is there. Don’t try to color it in the form of mind, ego, intellect. There is no mind, there is no ego, there is not any intellect.
Q: When you teach a person, do you give him a task on purpose or just spontaneously. For example, ‘Today I will tempt him, I will give him temptation and we will see whether he can manage it or not.’ Do you give like this or just spontaneously?
Temptation appears spontaneously, I am not giving, I have to take ego to give something. There is no ego, no giving, no taking. It happens spontaneously. The Listener is spontaneous, Listener is listening, Speaker is speaking, body is external cover, this is a voice box. See, there is not any difference because everywhere, all these bodies, Spirit is one. Bodies are different all the time were thinking as body, body-knowledge. Therefore ‘I am different’ that body identity is supposed to be dissolved. We are talking something, we are listening something, on the base of body. It’s open fact, body is not your identity at all.
For discussion purpose, say action of thoughts, conversation, language is there, body is required, only body can’t listen, it requires some Spirit, Power. This is a power house. Power is invisible, if power is not there, what is the use of the power house? The inner power is supplying power, generating power, but if generating power stopped then what is the use of that power house? It is open truth it is not difficult. Some or other way, we are having strong faith in body because of long association with the body. We have allot of attachment. If I stay at some house I get used to that house. This is a house. Staying 30, years, 40 years, 50 years, after maintaining it, you’ll not want to leave the house. This house belongs to the five elements. Just like stones are there, bricks are there, cement is there, sand is there. Blood is there, flesh is there, bones are there, so many organs are there, without power nothing will not function.
Q: Maharaj, I am is the whole world.
M: We say ‘I-am’ is the whole, ‘I-am’ is the world, beyond the world, this is all literal knowledge.
Q: It’s my feeling.
M: My feeling, who is feeling that, behind that my feeling, something is there to say ‘my-feeling’. To
say ‘my-feeling’ some energy is there. Without that how can you say ‘my-feeling’? Some click is
there, spontaneous click, spontaneous presence is there, out of that spontaneous presence immediately
taking ego as, ‘my-feeling’. There is no ego, there is no intellect, there is no mind, when you say
‘my-feeling’, prior to that feeling your spontaneous presence is there.
You follow?
Q: Yes, I follow but not with my mind.
M: Forget about mind. So like electricity, that light, electricity is there. Therefore it is flowing,
who is the cause of the shining?, electricity. This is a light, this is a fan. ‘My light’, who says
‘my light’? Without electricity how can you say light You can say ‘my-light’, but if electricity is
not there how can you say ‘my-light’? Likewise, ‘my feeling’ ‘I-am’, to say ‘I-am’ to say ‘my
feeling’, some subtle, some invisible, spontaneous, anonymous, presence is there. Without that
presence, you can’t say ‘I’ or ‘you’. I am inviting attention of that invisible presence. Which
cannot be defined in the words.
Presence is there, but it can not be defined. Out of that presence we are talking. We are acting,
body is only media. Mind is media, intellect is media, ego is media, all these, this factory working
because of one electricity. If that electricity, power is not there, what is the use of the factory?
This is factory. Heart is working, liver is working, eyes are there, so this is inner factory. Your
eating, your digesting, these internal parts. Entire body is one factory, who is running that
factory?
I am running life with ‘my-mind’, director, so many things are there. Mind is there, intellect is
there, personality department is there. General Managers are there, so this isa factory. How is it
working? Some owner is there? Invisible owner, Spontaneous owner.
With that invisible instruction, that factory is working. What happens is that mind becomes stronger,
mind starts to give instruction to that owner mind starts to give instruction to that owner. Owner is
not knowing his identity. Master says, No, don’t take instruction, You are the one, You are the
owner who is running all this, You are paying him.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj December 16, 2017.
So in short and sweet, the Principle Of Spirituality, try to Identify YourSelf Real Sense.
You are identifying everybody in the world except your Selfless Self, it’s most important.
Because body is not your identity, body was not your identity, body not going to remain
your identity. What you are accepting, what you are doing through the media of body it is
illusion. So try to know yourSelf, try to identify yourSelf, so that’s the basic. And for which
you are to undergo strictly meditation in the beginning. After having Conviction no need of
meditation also. Meditation required in initial stage, just like learning some language.
(inaudible) reading alphabet and all, mhhh? After hearing master repeating alphabet, now
he need not to go to (inaudible) the alphabet. So likewise meditation is the media through
which you can identify yourSelf. After having Conviction, after having Realization no need
of meditation also. All these requirements, meditation is required, Master is required,
Spiritual Knowledge is required. Why? To know your Selfless Self. We are knowing ourself
in body-form, that is illusion. Basically you are Formless. What you see it is illusion. So you
concentrate Concentrator, Invisible Seer within you. When there is no seer how can you
see the world? To say “this world” to say “God” to say “Brahman” your Presence is
required. That means Entire World Projected Out Of Your Invisible Presence, that you are
unknown to yourself. Try to know yourSelf and for which in the beginning you have to
strictly undergo meditation. So if I go on talking hours together, it is meaningless.
Q: Can I have a question?
Maharaj: Yes, yes.
Q: Ok. When I read the book Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharishi,
sometimes they say, sometimes somebody ask the question, “I want to just go somewhere
in the nature and be alone and quit everything and just meditate.” And they say, “Ok, it’s
good.” And sometimes somebody ask the same question and they say “You can work, you
can keep your family and ….
Maharaj: Yes!
Questioner: … you can just meditate – half an hour everyday. So my understanding is : for
everybody it’s different, everybody has different situation, different path, and I’m
interested what is my, what is good for me. I am now in the situation I can look myself for
unlimited time and just sit and do this finding the Invisible Listener. I can do it, I have the
money, I have the time, I have no responsibilities.
Maharaj: No question of, no question of money (inaudible)
Q: And I want to do it but, …
Maharaj: You must have a strong desire, strong willpower, “Yes I am To Do it!
Q: Yes
Maharaj: Money is not necessary, but “I have to do is, I have to know mySelf in a Real
Sense”. Strong willpower is a must, number one. Second thing, you must have read so
many books, Ramana Maharishi, Nisargadatta Maharaj. Not to analyze their words. It is
(inaudible) nature of the mind, why Nisargadatta says like this, why Ramana Maharishi
say like this? We are analyzing their words, statement. What they want to convey that is
most important. All Masters are right, they want to say for Perfection. But what we are
doing, Nisargadatta Maharaj say like this, what is the meaning of these words? Or the
statements contradictory to the statement of Ramana Maharishi or somebody. But that
analyzation not be there. All the Masters wanted to convey One Principle, That Except
Your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman. That conclusion you have to accept. It’s a
practice of the mind to analyze their words, statement, why Ramana Maharshi, there is no
comparative study. We are not here to debate on somebody’s statement. What they wanted
to convey out of that all statements, that is most important. And the Principle of
Spirituality, Except Your Selfless Self There is no God, No Brahman, No Atman, No
Paramatman, No Master. You are the Principle of this world. If your Presence is not there,
who will talk about the world? So what you see it is illusion, Through Which You See is the
Ultimate Truth. That Conviction supposed to be appear spontaneously within you, until
that time you are to undergo the meditation.
Q: So would your recommendation to me, when you see me, would you say it’s
appropriate or suitable or best for me to do that? That I just drop everything and just focus
on…
Maharaj: You do your duties, do all your responsibilities.
Q: I don’t have any.
Maharaj: What I say, only meditation no I recommended? You do your normal job, your
duties. If you are a family member take care of your family members. While doing all these
things you can Concentrate Concentrator. “Oh I am spiritual man, how can I see my wife,
my father, parent?” Our spirituality is practical. Do your duties, whatever duties is there.
Even if you are alone (inaudible) something will be there. Whatever duties, body-based duties
you are to do it. Suppose you take go to eat something. You are hungry you are
getting hungry or doing something body-based. You can’t avoid it, “oh I am spiritual man I
cannot do”. That is theoretical. Be practical. What I want exactly? I want to Identify
MySelf. It’s fact, even if you are thinking intellectually, body is not your identity at all.
Some or other day, willingly or unwillingly, you are to leave this body. What is the use of
this knowledge? Suppose you read thousands of books, you’ll be a master of words,
spiritual words, not Master Of Your Selfless Self. You are to be Master of your Selfless Self.
“You know God? Yes, I know. I am not man or woman, I am totally formless. Since I am
formless there is no death and birth, no future, no past, no destiny.” It’s Fact. Your
Presence Is Just Like A Space Or Sky. Does sky know anything? Sky does not know
anything. Likewise Your Invisible Presence Is Just Like Sky or Space. That conviction
supposed to be appear spontaneously, then only, Yes So That I…… Everybody want
happiness, fearless life, peaceful life. How it will be? Unless you identify yourSelf you not
have some that peacefulness. So money is not matter. You need not to go to spend a single
penny for spirituality, but this is an opportunity for you. Human body is an opportunity for
you to Identify YourSelf. So there should not be any birth, there are so many concepts, last
birth, future birth, no What Birth? Who knows what (inaudible)? Last past birth or destiny,
future destiny, all these concepts, illusory concepts developed (inaudible). What you see is
heaven and hell, all these concepts. You are to come out from all these concepts. All
concepts supposed to be dissolved. That is the Principle Of Spirituality. (Questioner:Yes)
So be firm. Visit YourSelf. Not today here, tomorrow here, tomorrow here, why? why? You
may visit, but not with expectation “Oh I go some place I will get happiness, if I go this
place, Himalaya is happiness.” You not get happiness. Because so far you are measuring
yourself in body-form. You may go anywhere in the world, you may change thousands of
masters, not helpful to you. Happiness is already within you, which you are ignoring.
Peacefulness already within you, you are ignoring it. Because directly or indirectly you are
having so much attraction of the body, so much faith and trust with the body. So that
concept supposed to be dissolved. Not to kill body. Try to identify. There will be no ego, no
intellects, no mind. Mind, ego, intellects appear upon your Presence. They are veils, they
are veils. We have become victim of our mind, ego, intellects. You can use them, but not to
become victim of these mind, ego, intellects. They are not bad, but they should you not
take excessively. Whatever excess is poison. So Be With You All The Time.
Q: The thing…..can I ask?
Maharaj: Yes, you can ask any question.
Q: The thing which most distract me from looking for the one who is looking, is
women. All the other things like, work, or some, I don’ know, fame, or power, I think I
don’t. But women is difficult for me to pull the attention, when there is beautiful girl the
attention goes there it’s difficult to do the attention inside.
Maharaj: These are the bodies. Presence is neither woman nor male or female. These are
human bodies. What happiness is there? If there is no Presence does this body have any
appearance? If (inaudible) suppose beautiful girl is there, lady is there. If there is no
Presence, dead body. What happiness is there? Because so far we are measuring ourself in
body form therefore we have got attraction of the woman or man, male or female. That,
dissolve. What is woman these are only dead bodies, male and female is the body. But
different parts are there, some parts are different. Who is holding the body? The Holder of
the body is not male or female. So far you are considering ‘I am man’, therefore there is
attraction. You are neither man nor woman, You Are Brahman. That conviction supposed
to be appear then there won’t be any attraction. Attraction is there because all the time we
accepted body as my identity. That body-identity, unless dissolved, you are not able to
know yourself, you will not get happiness. There are source of happiness, what is
happiness? Sex is happiness. Money is happiness, publicity is happiness. These are
temporary things. That supposed to be known. What is there? What happiness is there in
sex? It’s momentary. What money give happiness? At time of leaving the body, all these
sources will be (inaudible) to you? Not at all. Know Your Greatness. Why (inaudible) here
and there? What happiness is there, it’s temporary. You know Castro? Prime Minister
Castro of Cuba. He used to (inaudible number) ladies. You know? (inaudible) very sexual
attraction. (inaudible number of ladies) what happiness he got? After he died. (inaudible).
We’re not thinking. There is instant attraction. Money, okay there is some people with a lot
of money. Are they getting happiness? No. Publicity – there are so many popular people,
are they getting happiness? No. These are not the causes of happiness. Who want
happiness? Body want happiness? If there is no Presence, the dead body can enjoy? Will
the dead body enjoy the lady, or money, or publicity? Think it, you are not thinking. All
replies There. All questions are there and the reply is Within You Only. So think what I
have told just now, read the books, read Selfless Self of course if you want, I’ve got one
copy. (inaudible) If at all you want to read you can read it. After reading all these books you
get some idea, some conclusion, the Principle of Spirituality. Okay today is enough, mmh?
so memorize your memory what I have told you listen. Remember. You’ll get reply from
You!
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj April 4, 2017.
So far you’ve read so many books, you know better, and understand what is Ultimate Truth.
Now, what happens? Everybody knows about spirituality, everybody knows spirituality, after
readings so many books and approaching so many Masters. But some change in here, after knowing
the Reality, there should be something change inside.
It happens, after continuous meditation, after having Conviction you will feel some changes
inside. What changes are there? Suppose you are getting irritations from some small matter,
anything goes against your mind, getting irritated, though you’ve got spiritual knowledge, though
you know the reality, in spite of that if anything happen in society or family, if anything happen
against your mind, after having Conviction, that irritation dissolves. After having Conviction
irritation dissolves. Why? Because at that time you are knowing that I Am Not Body. Suppose
somebody allegate something to you, but you are not taking touch of that. Nisargadatta Maharaj
once said “If anyone say me is a very good saint, I’m not any appreciating for me. If they say you
are a bad saint, worst saint, no depression for me, because I am not good not bad.” That reality will
be absorbed within you. So if anybody appreciate you, or any depreciate you, nothing to do. How
that change is, is because you will remain untouched with the body knowledge. Until today, though
you are knowing that “I am somebody else, I am Brahman, Atman, Parmatmam, God, Master” it’s
literal knowledge.
But there is no practical knowledge because of the impression of the five elements,
impression of ego is there, intellect is there, mind is there. So, central point is body-based so all
those concepts are attracted to body-based knowledge. Whereas after having Conviction, after
having Ultimate Truth, after having, say, Ultimate Stage, all these concepts dissolve.
Because I am not body at all. After beingness I am formless. Suppose after death, after
leaving the body anybody abuse you or anybody praise you, all the same. You will not know if they
are praising or they are appreciating. So likewise, though your Presence is within this body, it
remains unconcerned with the body-knowledge. With the result, if anybody appreciate you, if
anybody praise you, if anybody insult you, no concern.
It’s the first thing. That is called Shama, means forgive and forget. It happens spontaneously.
People ask me “Suppose I am listening from so many Masters, I am reading so many books, how
can I understand if I am realized or not?” the main question, “I know everything. I know better than
Brahman Atman Paramatman God. (inaudible). I listened from various sources but whether that
knowledge absorbed within me or not, how can I understand?” For that the answer is given by
spiritual knowledge.
Six things are there. Most important. After having Conviction, after knowing the Reality,
spontaneous changes you will feel inside. Previously, for some matter, some words, you are getting
irritation. The same person abuse you, there is not any irritation. First thing.
Then second thing, tolerance. So much tolerance is there. Because if anything happens,
against, you are not getting irritations, you’re forgiving and forgetting everything. Tolerance is
there. Say, Exceptional Tolerance is there. Patience is there. So now if there’s unpleasant
atmosphere or unpleasant thing you listen from somebody else, something happen in your family,
something happen again, that patience is there, no enemy, nothing is there. Okay, suppose someone
is in pain, somebody died, momentary some grief or sadness is there. But you say “Okay this is
going to happen to me also. Today this man die, tomorrow this body is going to go, there is no
(inaudible).” So that Conviction appears, you’re not getting irritated, there’s no sadness. You can
convince yourself. Thats the second thing.
Third thing is, if anyone is taking something so, there is anxiety to know the Reality.
Suppose somebody is talking something of reality of Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master,
but something is there. You are having to discern, capacity to discern calmly and quietly. It is called
Titiksha.
And then, Uparati means you discard all concern. No attraction. No sex attraction, no money
attraction, no publicity attraction. Your view of the world totally changes. There is no material
attraction, for happiness, for peacefulness, because peacefulness appears spontaneously within you,
without any material cause. That attribute will be absorbed, absorbed within you. Then with the
result you are getting strong Devotion, “Oh!” Then you’ll not be tempted to go anywhere to have
peacefulness. “The Master says I am Brahman, all these qualities are within me , I am peaceful
without any material cause, why to go here and there for peacefulness.” In that case there won’t be
temptation to go anywhere, to any Master, or anywhere. That happens spontaneously because
whatever is required is already within you, so then there won’t be temptation. And then Devotion.
And then Trust, strong trust within you, “Yes! this is Ultimate Truth!” So these changes will
happen, that is a sign of Realization, or Enlightenment. If something lacking then you have to do
something for meditation all these things. So in that case meditation will be spontaneous. You need
not go to sit and meditate the words, it happens spontaneously, in your deep sleep also.
So, though you are holding the body, though you are using the body, you remain
unconcerned with the body. After having these changes, how to live, how to live your life will be
will completely changed. So even though you remain in the society, you live in the society, you
remain unconcerned with the world, unconcerned with all these activities. That’s suppose to happen.
Only listening, meaningless. Approaching masters, meaningless. You’ll feel some changes. Until
that changes, you have to undergo the, strictly meditation procedure.
(?inaudible) some miracle experience happening, “Oh I got Knowledge I am Realized!
Don’t have to go for meditation.” So, this is a kind of pricking of your mind, to distract you from
Reality. Mind, ego, intellect always making effort to distract you from the Reality. External forces
are there, half-knowledge, trying to impress their old concepts.
So not to come across with such element that will distract you from Reality. After knowing
the Reality. Why to go to others to know Brahman, to know spiritual knowledge? Not necessary.
You are to identify yourself. Not to identify Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. You have
to identify Invisible Identifier within you. And It’s Formless.
There is no birth and death, there is no shape, It’s just like a space or sky. That conviction is
supposed to appear. Therefore you have to make those changes inside. Even anything happen
against your mind, against you, anything, you are to keep quiet. Not to pay so much attention to
that. That is first stage. Because of that small small matter we are paying so much attention because
our ego is not allowing us to stay completely. (inaudible?) changes is there. So by meditation you
can control your mind, ego, intellect. They will act according to you. Until today we acting
according to ego, mind, and intellect. That will be stopped. That is the effect of meditation.
Therefore, prime lesson of the spirituality is to undergo the strictly meditation. It will take
some time. In some cases within one month, two month, or six years, or ten years. It depends how
your involvement is there, how your strong faith is there. Here strong faith is most important
because there should not be any dull mind, there should not be any say, change of mind there should
not be wavering mind because, “oh so I get something from this master something from this
master.”
Approach your own Master. Master has shown, nothing except your Selfless Self. Changing
Master is meaningless. You Be Loyal With You, because Your inner Master is a very strong Master.
After knowing this reality you should be loyal with your own Master, through which you are
listening, through which you are identifying this world, through which you are watching this world,
through which you are watching your dreams and all. That’s Ultimate Truth. But because of lack of
confidence, lack of courage, we have some dual mind, to go here and there. How long you go here
and there? Why to go changing so many Masters? Nothing you get. So everything start from you
and everything ends within you. That’s the Ultimate Truth, the Final Truth.
One thing is clear, this is not going to remain constant. This has a time-limit. So what you
are doing for this, it is meaningless, because this is uncertain, body is uncertainty. So who is acting
from this? Because of Presence body is having value. I’m talking about that Presence, therefore you
must have strong conviction to accept the Reality. Without which, not possible. So we are trying to
change yourself, not to go along with the mind, ego, intellect. You can use your mind, ego intellect,
as it is required, but not to depend totally upon mind, ego, intellect, because you are separate from
it, because prior to beingness there is no mind, no ego, no intellect, no master, no spiritual
knowledge.
Why spiritual knowledge is required? What is spiritual knowledge? It’s just information, the
identification, of the searcher, of the listener, of the reader. Beyond that nothing is there. Where is
spiritual knowledge prior to beingness? Nothing was there. After leaving body, what spiritual
knowledge is there? Will that so-called spiritual knowledge help you at the time of leaving the
body? No! It’s Fact. Spiritual knowledge means just to identify yourself, its the words. All these
confusions are there, wavering mind is there. So to discard all concepts, to discard all concerns, to
discard all desires, you have to undergo the strictly meditation. After meditation it will be cleaning
process.
I call it AntiVirus Software. Meditation is the antivirus software. All the viruses will be
dissolved. Entire thing will be completely changed, clean, totally washed out. All the desires and
concepts will be washed out. And then that Spontaneous Happiness will be there. Peacefulness is
there. It is not through material points. It’s the most important thing. So according to the spiritual
lesson, just start that meditation first. With meditation you can identify yourself in a real sense.
So start from today!
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj March 25, 2017.
That Spirit or Presence acting through body is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. It is not limited to the body, it is beyond the body. And knowledge means That Identification. So, theoretically we know that I am Brahman, Paramatman, God, Master. To implement the practice, you have to undergo the meditation. What is the result of meditation? You will not get results immediately. It has happened in my case also. I have taken Mantra, October 31st of 1962. In the beginning, not possible to understand what Maharaj used to say. Every day, in the evening, I used to go to Maharaj, there was lecture, before there are some foreigners used to be at the house, there are discussions, so I’m attending discussion also, attending lectures also. But uh beyond my capacity, no idea. But Maharaj used to say, “Listen to me, Listen to me”. What he wants to say that “Listen to Me”, that Invisible Listener is Listening to his speech and engraving it indirectly. Though intellectually you are not able to understand, but some Invisible Presence engraving that Reality Permanently. At that particular moment, you will not get results, you say “I can’t understand, it’s beyond my capacity.” But it is absorbing within you indirectly, Master’s Word. He used to say, “Listen to me, Listen to me”. Sometimes he used to give some tips. So, he said “What is there in body? Nothing, Only Glimpses Of I”. So, he told long ago this, then after some years back, afterwards, everything opened. How that open? Because after strong meditation, Involvement, Faith in Masters, your Inner Master Open the Secret of the Spirituality. Because Inner Master is not separate from the External Master, these are only concepts. But whatever is in you, that Power, it opens Behind. And I slowly, slowly I form That. Listen, You’re Presence is Everywhere. Every being has Presence, it happens Spontaneously inside, inside, it is surprise. Second thing, sometimes I think very, very bad thoughts. I feel sometimes guilty, some hatred, jealousy, bad dreams, it happens, but I am getting confused. But thereafter after some time, it’s open, “why should I guilty?” Its nature of the mind to know the thoughts. I’m not accepting any thought that flow in the mind. I’m not guilty for that. That is Reality Opened. Some Inner Voice explaining the Reality before you. At that time, you will not have any separate from That. You become One with That.
That Spontaneous Instructions, some answer of your special question, or some difficult question, is flowing inside. And there was some dialog within me. See it is very funny miracles, directly within you. When you are asking some question, when some question is raised inside, immediately those questions are answered. There Is No Master physically, but your Inner Master – this is also concept – your Inner Power replying that questions and you accept that “Oh how it is!” So whenever, if anybody asking any difficult question the instant answer is there because your Inner Master is pleased with you, you have not become separate from Inner Master. Therefore, Nisargadatta Maharaj say, “I’m not making you disciple I’m making you Master.” Because Masterly Essence already within you. It happens, you are unaware of that power. Always you are measuring yourself, counting yourself in body form. That body-concept supposed to be dissolved for which meditation is having powerful effect. It happens, and then slowly, silently, permanently, you feel that “Oh, body is not my identity at all, why should I fear?”. Because prior to beingness I am not body, after leaving body nothing remains.
So, knowledge, purpose of knowledge, value of knowledge, till that, till that knowledge that Reality absorb within you. What is knowledge? Spiritual knowledge, spiritual knowledge, what spiritual knowledge? Spiritual Knowledge, through Master, place before you the Reality of the Listener. And You Are Listener, To Whom There Is No Shape. That Conviction supposed to be appear. Then everything will be clear within you. You need not to go to anywhere in the world, no need of any Masters. But you are to enter your Master, your Spiritual Master external master. If external Master say “You Are Brahman” you are to accept it. Therefore, those illiterate people they have accepted it, plainly, no doubts. We’re having some intellect, we are creating some “why this? how this? how this?” No why, no how. My Master is Master. My Master says, ‘You are Brahman’, You are Brahman. No other thoughts. Like that you are to accept the Reality. What happens?
We develop intellect, spiritual intellect. We’re having subtle ego. We’re having pressure of mind. And therefore, always, though we are Knowing the Reality, we are confused. We confuse ourself. Our thoughts creating problems. When alert these thoughts are illusory thoughts, not to struggle with thought, it is natural, that mind is manufacturing something that I told you. So, whatever thoughts are useful for your routine you can accept it, else throw it. What happens is the nature of the body is that whatever person accepts “yes, my thought my thoughts”, and then some depression is there. So, in that case, how to act or how to react under the various circumstances, that Reality will come out of you. There’ll be inner voice, no doubt will be there. If mind says no no-oh I don’t want it. So, you are to have commanding nature. Your mind has become slave, now we have become slave of mind.
Mind instructing your power. So, in that case we are powering power to the mind, ego, intellect. What is mind, ego, intellect? They are subtle organs. Subtle functioning bodies. Where are those prior to beingness? Nothing. We came across with the body only, needs, requirement, desires, good desire, bad desire, all concept, all concepts, came along with body. And now only you are afraid of all these concepts, but we are trying, we have accepted the concept, my thoughts.
Therefore, we feel guilty or feeling tension, anything happens against our mind you are getting tension, depressed, “oh that man is not”, there is jealousy. Nisargadatta Maharaj used to say not to be jealous of anybody.
There should not be attract, not to hurt anybody’s feelings, that is basic. That means directly or indirectly you are assaulting family members, your friends, anybody else, you feel that he is not doing well, or say something bad or some…. ok. Don’t insist, don’t force somebody to act according to your wishes. Suppose your wife is there, brother is there, sister is there, son is there, mother is there, so many. They are expecting that they should behave like this, this, this and that, it become again to accept that, some concept, a spiritual exhibition. You feel something irritating. I told that “You not follow me.” So, like that force, create problems for you. Forget it. forget it, why to insist? You are Master of Your Own. The world itself is illusory world, it’s a dream. Because prior to 100 years you were not there. After 100, how you will be there? So, nothing dissolves into nothing. Nothing came out of nothing. And we are fighting because ‘this is something’. That fighting is supposed to be stopped. That confusion is supposed to be stopped. You can stop it. Not difficult.
Why Master is required? Because we are not knowing Reality, even though we are knowing the Reality it is not implemented. We’re having body pressure, we’re having mind pressure, we’re having ego pressure, intellect pressure. Some thoughts are there. So many thoughts racing all the time. So, that to say, not to come across with such element which will distract you from the Reality. You know better, your aware mind. When you know the identity perfectly, why to go to enquiry, ‘how that I Brahman is” hmm? Brahman does not have any shape. It’s the nature of, ‘oh after this going Master, how that Brahman is.” And he’s trying to impress concepts. This master says like this, this master says like this. You follow your inner Master, and through meditation you are giving some strength, power to inner Master to open the Truth to you. Then your external identity will be dissolved. No identity remains. You become one with your Selfless Self. Though you are living as a man or woman, you are not taking any touch, you remain unconcerned with the world, as if you are acting in a drama. So, That Reality is supposed to be absorbed, digested, for which meditation….
Q: So not to struggle? I mean you want to put in effort but not to struggle with it….
Maharaj: What, why to struggle? Why to struggle with, we are struggling with our own thoughts. It is the nature of the body to manufacture so many thoughts. 24-hour thoughts. In dream, also the thoughts are there. After meditation, after Conviction, after absorbing the Knowledge, Reality, you are not giving so much importance to thoughts. Why become victim of your thoughts? Ok the thoughts are flowing. Some dog is barking. Are you paying attention to why that dog is barking? No. Similarly, mind is flowing with thoughts, then you can forget it. Listen to me. Then you become thoughtless. If you give importance to the thought, then again and again it’s trying to confuse you. So be alert. Be cautious. All the time. Because Bhajan is there, prayers are there. It is a systematic Devotion. All the time you are alert. Alertness is there. Through Bhajan and through prayers, through meditation, knowledge. You are getting alertness. You are not becoming a victim of anybody’s thoughts, anybody’s concepts, or your own concepts. Very simple thing. You are not forgetting, from that dedication. Knowledge is there, but dedication is there. It’s the only thing, beyond that nothing is there. You don’t have to think how to maintain it, that you have to do. You may be anywhere, you can do your job, do your duties. You can recite the Mantra, reciting Mantra.
Sit for meditation, if you got sufficient time to, one hour, half an hour, sit for half an hour for meditation. time. Remember all this Atmosphere so your mind will not play tricks against you.
The mind always tries to distract you from it. Even some other people, some different concepts are there. Everybody says, “I know Brahman, I know Brahman, I know Brahman.’ The story of that blind boy going to see the elephant. Whatever part he got he says, “this is the elephant”. But when you see the entire elephant, you don’t argue with that. That is correct. You are Knowing. Like that, there are so many Masters, so many things are there. Everybody says, “Brahman is like that, Brahman is like this, Brahman…….” Ok. Not to struggle with it. When you know the Reality, why to struggle?
So be Strong, Spiritually Strong. Now you know the Reality, you are to maintain that Reality. Do your duties, do your jobs, your responsibilities. Earn something if you are earning something, what is there? Nisargadatta Maharaj was working, not to depend on anybody else, stand on your own feet. Spirituality is not restricting any of your activities. Whatever is required for this body, you can have it. “Oh, I am spiritual man, how can I do this?” Nothing. If you are having any time you may come to master. If not, I can talk with you on telephone, mobile is there. Nowadays lots of facilities are there. But stand on your own feet. Spiritually lets you stand on your own feet. Master is there, but even if Master is not with you physically Master is Master. Master is not there so I find other live masters, disciple of, so many persons “oh I have to go find live master”. What do you mean live Master? You are live Master.
Okay.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj March 3, 2017.
Maharaj: So as we are discussing the same thing. Same tape we are repeating again and
again.(Laughter)
Devotee A: Just push play…
Devotee B: Raga…
Maharaj: Same Raga. (Laughter) Words are different. The principle behind that you get
some Spontaneous Happiness. Then, so many (inaudible) are there. They’re reading books,
listening, but some or other way they’re coming on the body-based-knowledge. Yesterday
some lady made a lot of arguments, in a message, and “Why is my family like this? Why my
son-in-law is acting like this?” So many (inaudible) But we are not concerned with family
matters. Spirituality not concerned with the family matters, why your son is not studying?
How can I help that? Why your husband (inaudible). I can’t help you! The main thing
(inaudible) family life, I can’t help you. Because base of the Spirituality, You are not body
at all. You live Happily. You are getting some Courage to live Happily, Peacefully, because
since You are holding your body you have started to believe in the body and you are acting
according to that, therefore we are having some depression, and some sadness,
unpleasantness, painful life. How to be painful life (inaudible) pleasure (inaudible).
Devotee C: But still it can be that Spirit feels it just by chance helps you in life. So that, I
don’t expect so much from my family members anymore, then they are free.
Maharaj: Yes, it happens. Because not you, but some other people say that, particularly
ladies, a problem, “My husband is not going like me. I am spiritual, doing bhajan,
meditation, why my husband is like this? My son is like this? Why he’s not learning?
Why…” What you? How to do? What to do? (Laughter) I can’t take care of your family life.
So it happens. So after teaching, after listening, after reading, again that body-based
concept pricking. It should not (inaudible), because our concept of the reality is not real
point. (Inaudible) devotees are reading, but that Conviction is not there. Some or other
body-based-concept is there. That’s supposed to be dissolved, melted – without it, it is not
possible. Even if told that, even intellectuals say that “this is not your Identity at all”.
Where are all these bodies prior to beingness? Nothing was there. My husband, my father,
my sister, my guru. All these concepts came along with the body. After leaving the body
what concept remain? Nothing remain. It’s open, even forget of spirituality, you think
intellectually also, “this is not going to remain.” And further, if there is no Presence, what is
the value of this body? It’s a dead body. So after knowing this, you will be have Conviction
that (inaudible) that I am not birth and death, no birth, there’s no death. Inside this body,
what is there? Just glimpses of I. It’s space, just like a veil, subtle veil, through which we
feel ‘I’. If there is no veil, how can you feel ‘I’? And that ‘I’ we are directly experiencing. And
it’s nature of the Spirit to continue this life for long. It’s not possible. But the importance of
spirituality, it give you Courage. Whatever happened, happened on the body. It may be
words, but it give courage to, how to live happily. (Inaudible) Nisargadatta Maharaj,
number of problems, number of problems. Since he was a – there was so many – he was
there, even he become disciple of Siddharameshwar Maharaj. He left all his things. He
wanted to experience these words, etc, etc. Now his family life and his business are totally
disturbed. Then his mother died, daughter died. Father, what why he die? So many
calamities! His business gone. Now out of ten shop, one shop remains. So many things are
there. He also (inaudible). In spite of that he not left spirituality. Because you are getting
Courage how to live in all these circumstances. So this spiritual teaching show how to live
successfully, peacefully in spite of there are so many difficulties and depressions. It’s the
purpose behind it. But you are trying to relate, ‘my family life’ to spirituality. So this
Understanding, this Conviction (inaudible) reading book. So try to overcome all these
difficulties. Because you have got Power how to overcome all these difficulties. You can use
your Power. And as it, it is fact that this is illusory world. There is no I, you, he, she, it,
nothing is there. There is no master, there is no disciple, there is no god, there is no
devotee. It’s Fact, but so far we are holding body so all concept are there. The moment
body disappears what concept? Nothing remains. Who is God? What is God? What is
Brahman? What is Atman, Paramatman, Master (inaudible)? So everything came out of
nothing, everything dissolve within nothing, It’s fact. (inaudible) the ego. So not struggle,
not struggle with the mind. No fighting with the mind. We are fighting with the mind,
fighting with the thoughts, yes why not? We behave like this. We are preparing some
frames and within that framework (inaudible).
Devotee A: My only depression is not repeating the Mantra enough. Otherwise I feel very
good, but I feel like I’m not repeating the Mantra enough. But I guess as depression goes,
it’s a good depression to have.
Maharaj: So now to accept that thing within you. Mantra is saying that ‘You Are Brahman,
Atman, Paramatman, God, Master’. Master does not have any death and birth. No
depression, nothing is there. No peacefulness is required, no happiness is required because
happiness, peacefulness, they connected to the body only. Because body-knowledge is not
tolerable. So Spirituality teaching you to stand on your own feet. Not to depend upon
anybody, including masters also. Encourage you own Master, approach your Own Master.
It’s Powerful Master. But we have our habit, “give something, be something, give me
blessing. (Inaudible).
Devotee D: Who needs to be courageous? When you say that we need courage. I don’t feel
that I am very courageous person…
Maharaj: Courage is required because you are considering yourself in body-form.
Devotee D: Yes, but where I get that courage I……
Maharaj: It’s Spontaneous Courage. Even difficulty appear before you, you not disturbed,
you’re not depressed. Some incidents, some unpleasant incidents happen in your life, at
that time you are getting some Courage, Firmness, to remain unconcerned with that
incident. Previously if such thing happens we are getting afraid, disturbed, depressed. That
depression will not come after having this Conviction. You are getting courage
spontaneously, it happen. Let it happen, even it happen I am not concerned with it. Like
that black clouds will go away. Clouds are coming, going. You are There and There Only. So
you will feel spontaneous within you, continuous meditation. Because slowly, silently, and
permanently all body-based-concepts supposed to be dissolved. Then only You remain
untouched with the world. Whatever happening in the world, forget it. Because You are not
body at all, I was not body at all. So stop measuring in body-form because You are
Formless.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Q: I’m confused about when the best time to activate the inner Master and do the self-enquiry. Should that…
Maharaj: See, I said that ‘inner Master’ and ‘outer Master’ are concepts. There’s no difference between the internal Master and the external Master. Just for understanding we are saying ‘internal Master’, ‘external Master’, there’s no difference between any ‘internal Master’ and ‘external Master’. It’s just for understanding. Master is Master, there’s no inner and no outer, no external.
Q: Thank you.
Maharaj: Yes?
Q: Who is eligible to have the Naam Mantra?
Maharaj: Everybody!
Q: (inaudible)..requirement for that?
Maharaj: Yes, yes, I told John. If you are willing to have the Naam Mantra, spare some time for Naam Mantra. But it should be sincere. I’m not accepting anything from you, but you should be sincere to accept it, your involvement is most important. Because what happens, is that things we get free of charge have no value. I’m not expecting anything from you except your involvement, which is most important, not anything else. To give the Naam Mantra is not difficult for me. But there should not be some ill-faith or something. Be serious about the Naam Mantra.
Q: How to practice it?
Maharaj: (Inaudible), (I’ll guide you). You are to recite the Mantra according to the breathing. At the initial stage we are giving some discipline, just like when you are learning some language, how to write a-b-c-d and all these things.
Q7: Because sometimes it feels we are torturing ourself.
Maharaj: It’s not necessary to torture yourself. It’s a very simple thing. No torturing, no special exercise. Why to torture the body? It’s a simple thing, it’s your knowledge, not the knowledge of ‘Brahman’, ‘Atman’, ‘Paramatman’. The Invisible Listener within you is Ultimate Truth, it is called Ultimate Truth. But you are neglecting it, you are underestimating yourself. You say “God is great”, “Oh God bless me”, okay, it’s not bad. But if your Presence is not there, how can you identify God?
To say ‘God’ your Presence is required. If there’s no Presence in the body, who will talk about the God? Who will talk about this world? At the initial stage I’m insisting on meditation because we forgot our identity. You might have read so many books, you might have listened to so many Masters. But you’re not reading, not listening as if it’s the listener’s story, the readers story, “It’s my story”. If somebody writes your biography, you“It’s my biography”.
Yes?
Q: You can also recite with an ‘Om Nama Sivaya’ or (other) mantra also?
Maharaj: You can recite one mantra, any one mantra. Not to take one mantra from one Master, go to another Master for some other mantra. Have some loyalty or faith with your mantra, any mantra will do. Not to encourage wavering mind: “Today one Master gives this mantra then that Master gives a different Mantra”.
Q: No, in the morning you have a habit of (inaudible), ten minutes…
Maharaj: Okay, no problem. With full faith, full involvement. Any mantra will do: ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ is okay, ‘Sivoham’, any mantra. But be faithful with full trust.
Q: I’m kind of confused. When you say something comes…nothing comes from something, and then something becomes nothing?
Maharaj: I said that ‘everything came out of nothing, and everything dissolves back into nothing’. Everything came out of nothing and everything dissolves within nothing.
Q: But how can something become nothing? And nothing become something, I mean…
Maharaj: We are playing with the words. Try to identify yourself so this question will not arise in your mind. These are the words, I repeat, this is language through which you are conveying yourself. We have created language: ‘something’, ‘nothing’, ‘everything’, these are words. The basic principle behind that is that you have to try to identify yourself, try to identify the Invisible Listener within you. Instead of analyzing so many words, spiritual words, try to identify: who is the analyzer? Who wants this knowledge? What is the purpose of this knowledge? To what extent is this knowledge helpful? Suppose somebody has lots of knowledge. Will that knowledge help at the time of leaving the body? Lots of knowledge, so many books you are reading, fifty years of sadhana, seventy years of sadhana, or something. Just question yourself: “After reading so many books, after having approached so many Masters, after having a lot of knowledge, will this knowledge help me at the time of leaving the body?” You should be fearless. That fearless life should be there. That moment should be a happy moment: “I am not dying, no death is there. I am unborn.”
You’ll get spontaneous courage out of spirituality to approach any problem. Thoughts are coming and going, negative thoughts are coming and going, depressions are there. But after having Conviction you’ll neglect all these depressive thoughts. It is momentary, just like clouds, black clouds coming and going. You are there and there only.
Q: Is love a concept as well?
Maharaj: Of course, when did you come across the ‘love’? ‘Love’, ‘affection’, these are concepts which appeared upon your Presence. When the Spirit clicked with the body, the love, affection, appeared before you. What is the love? Prior to beingness no love is there. After leaving the body any love is there? So far we’re measuring ourselves in body-form, ‘love’, ‘affection’, so many things are there, so many relations are there: ‘my father’, ‘my sister’, ‘my brother’, ‘my Master’, ‘my God’, thousands of concepts are there. The moment the body dissolves nothing is there, no relations. All relations are body-based relations, and you are not the body at all, you were not the body at all, you’re not going to remain the body at all, because you’re Ultimate Truth, you’re Final Truth, Final Reality.
And to absorb this Reality, again I am repeating, you are to undergo the meditation, it’s the only source. Only reading, only talking, only listening, no. And you can do it! Nothing is impossible. Because except your Selfless Self nothing is there.
Be practical. Not to neglect your family life. If you’re doing a job, do your job, you’re doing duties, do your duties. So “I’m Brahman”, or “I’m spiritual man, how can I do all these things”, no restrictions at all. What you’re reading, what you’re doing, has nothing to do with it. There’s no deed, there’s no doer! Because we are measuring ourself in body-form therefore we are saying “I did something, bad thing, good thing”. What is a ‘good thing’ what is a ‘bad thing’? That which is tolerable is a ‘good thing’, that which is not tolerable is a ‘bad thing’.
Yes?
Q: I think of bliss, and then I think of impersonal love as sort of the same, and to me, when I’m there, it’s a fact to me. Then other times, I forget that fact. So is the bliss, the bliss and love…
Maharaj: Not to measure yourself in body-form. What blessing is there?
Q: Bliss, bliss…
Maharaj: Ah, acha, acha (I understand), blissfulness.
Q: So,when I experience that it’s a fact for me…
Maharaj: It’s okay, it’s okay…
Q: …but then I forget it, and then it’s no longer a fact.
Maharaj: Don’t underestimate you. Nothing forgotten, nothing remembered. That so-called ‘I’ is supposed to dissolve.
Q: When you meditate do you have to repeat a certain Mantra?
Maharaj: Yes, of course, of course. Therefore I told you, our lineage is having a different mantra. ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ is one, ‘Soham’ mantra is there, ‘Sivoham’ mantra is there, ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’. Various mantra’s, various words are there. It is an indication, some key-words. Through those words you are to identify, you are hammering yourself. You’re not only sitting for one hour, two hours. You can sit for meditation, but all the time involvement is required.
Yes?
Q: When I do the meditation I can’t help but have thoughts coming through. What do I have to do to stop the thoughts?
Maharaj: It’s the nature of the mind. Mind means flow of thoughts. You are witnessing thoughts, you are different from thoughts. You are witnessing thoughts, good thoughts, bad thoughts, you are witnessing. Not to try to control the thoughts, let them be there. Suppose you are sitting here and outside something happens, you’re neglecting it. Thoughts are flowing all the time. Which thoughts to be accepted and which thoughts not to be accepted is up to you.