How Will I Still Be Able to Interact After Dissolving Body-Knowledge? Download Link

Q – How is it after dissolving all body knowledge, I will still be able to interact with human beings who believe themselves to be a body?

M – After dissolving the body knowledge, no identity remains, but since you are holding body, you are doing activities without any ego. At the final stage, though you are holding the body, and after realization, body-based concepts dissolve because you are not body, it is fact. When the fact is confirmed that I am not body at all, thereafter all your activities are just like a dream activity, as if you are acting in a drama.

So, there is no any ego, there is no any type of illusionary concept. You remain formless, all actions after realization are spontaneous. Where there is no ego, no intellect, no mind, because it is confirmed, it is convinced that “I am not body, I was not body”– so all activities are not having so much importance, egoistic importance, ok.

Q – Is true meditation the total negation or denial of any of all phenomena, including the Self? Will that lead to supreme wisdom? If yes, then its seems nothing needs to be done except deny everything.

M – After realization, no need of any meditation is required. Till you’ve got Conviction that – “I am not body”– till that time you have to undergo the meditation, number one. Second thing, as a matter of fact, human form is not your identity at all, that Conviction is supposed to appear.
So, all questions are related to the body-based questions. Basically, prior to Beingness, there were no questions, after leaving body, there won’t be questions, all our questions are guessing, guess questions, imaginary questions, illusory questions, so no questions remain after realization.
Realization means Conviction that I am not body at all, basically you are formless, human form is not your identity at all. So, all these questions: “what will happen after this human form after Realization?” nothing is going to happen because nothing has happened, nothing is going to happen. So, your birth and death this is also concept, illusionary concept, so not to accept this.
We are acting within the circle of the body knowledge, that is supposed to be broken-up. You are not body at all, that’s a fact, you have to accept it.

So, the basic principle of Spirituality, I repeatedly told you: that body form is not your identity at all, that Conviction is supposed to appear. This is Ultimate Truth: you were not body, you are not body, you are not going to remain body. So many questions are there, they are body related question.

So, after knowing the Reality, your actions or reactions, remain no value. Your actions are just like a spontaneous act because you are knowing that this is not, say, Ultimate Truth. Present body form is not Ultimate Truth, Ultimate Truth is beyond that where there is no experience, no experiencer, that is your Identity and for which you have to undergo meditation. Because if you don’t go under the meditation, illusionary concepts will not dissolve and then again and again the mind will play with you. It will create some problems, it will create some questions, it will create confusion within you.

So very simple thing: even if you think intellectually, body is not your identity at all. After leaving body what remains? Just think intellectually, forget about Spirituality. After leaving this body what remains? Any question remains? Any requirement is there? Any need of God is there? Any need of Master is there? You are not disciple, you are not Master, you are not God, you are not devotee, nothing is there. Nothing is there, prior to Beingness, what is there? Nothing is there.
So in between, that Spirit has taken form, human form and a number of questions, and through mind, ego, intellect, we are acting all the ways. All routine activities are going through the mind, ego, intellect, they are the functional organs during human form, so human form is not your identity at all, you are formless and since you are formless, there is no birth and death, it is very simple principle of Spirituality. You need not go to God and Master, Master is within you. External Master is inviting attention of the Invisible Master within you that except your Self nothing is there, it is fact.

But you are not accepting because of a long association with the body, you are acquainted with this body knowledge, so body knowledge is supposed to be dissolved, it is very simple thing. Spirituality is not complication, there is no complication. Because we have a lot of attachment to this body, we are thinking, considering body is our base and body is not your base at all. Some or other day you have to leave the body, prior to Beingness, prior to body knowledge, nothing was there. After leaving body what remains? No knowledge is there. Knowledge, Enlightenment, Realization, Conviction, God, Master, disciple, devotee, all this came along with the body.
Where are the Master and God prior to Beingness? Nothing was there, just simple, imagine it, prior to hundred years what is your status? Nothing. After leaving body, what is your status? Nothing is there. So everything came out of nothing, everything dissolves within nothing.

So, all questions are body related questions, intellectual questions, guess questions, logical questions. Where were all the questions prior to Beingness? Nothing is there.
And for which, again I am repeating, to know this Reality, to identify this Reality, you have to undergo meditation. Meditation will open all cards and you will yourself Self–Realize.
You will come to know, you are not to go anywhere, knowledge already within you, Reality already within you, Ultimate Truth is not separate from you, Master is not separate from you, God is not separate from you.

Since you are measuring yourself, counting yourself in body form, therefore you forgot all these memories. Master is reminding it, through meditation, through these words – “Aham Brahmasi, I am brahman”, reminding, hammering, “You Are Brahman, you are Brahman” – “I am Brahman, Brahman I am”. After having Conviction “Brahman I am”, then all body-based knowledge dissolves, nothing will remain.

What is there. Just you see, what is there? Blood is there, flesh is there, bones are there, what is there? And for which you say, “I am somebody else”. What is identification? Is body your identity? Not at all. Why there should be ego, why to struggle with the mind, why to struggle with the people? Okay, you can hold body, you can act from body, but have some Conviction, because everything is within you, everything starts from and everything end within you, you are central point of the world. Even Masters and everybody says, “Except your Selfless Self, nothing is there”. No God, no Master is there. Have some spontaneous Conviction. What is the purpose of Spirituality? Just to identify your Self in real sense. Ok.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

Q: What is Strong Meditation? Download Link

Q: Maharaj what is strong meditation?

M: Strong meditation is, where you forget your total body identity. There is no individuality. There is not any experience, no experiencer, you have become one with the Selfless Self. There is no any awareness, absence of consciousness, so you forget all the world when you are having strong meditation. Because the words given to you, you become with the same with words, what is the meaning of that word – ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’– so Brahman means Ultimate Truth. That means: body is not your identity at all, all these efforts we are doing to forget our body identity.

We are holding human form and human form is not our identity, that you know. We are having some time limit, age limit, after certain time we have to leave this body. So who is speaking from this body? Who is listening from this body? It is separate from this body identity. It is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. But still, we have got attachment with the body, we are having body-based questions, concepts, and because of that strong attachment with the body, we are not able to accept the Reality.

What is Reality? You are separate from the body. Human form is not your identity at all. But, the Presence holding, the Presence I call Ultimate Truth, the Presence or Spirit holding the human body. In human body we are having a lot of suffering, unpleasant atmosphere, but that Spirit, that Presence, does not know what is good thing, bad thing, does not know blissfulness or peacefulness or any unpleasant atmosphere. The Spirit is just like space or sky. So, you must have Conviction, body form, body identity is not my identity at all, then only, you will be fearless, there is no death, no birth, there is no form.

Prior to Beingness we are formless, at present we are formless though we are holding body form. I am talking about the Invisible Presence within the body, that to have Conviction, or Realization, you have to undergo meditation. Through meditation you are hammering all the time – ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’ – because it is the nature of the Spirit: what you impress, it reflects, it accepts. For example, when so-called birth is there, our parents say, “you are male or female”, we accepted “I am male or female”. At that time, we are not knowing what is male or female, but our parents said this body called male, this body called female, we accepted that. Along with that, so many concepts were impressed upon us by our parents, by society members and by other family members. We accepted each and every concept and our life style is according to that concept.

So, so many concepts we have engraved, we have protected, we have accepted, those concepts are supposed to be dissolved, that is the main purpose. Because unless that, dry talking, dry reading of the books, approaching so many Masters, it is meaningless. Because everything starts from you, everything ends within you. Stop measuring yourself in body form, stop measuring yourself with illusionary concepts.

So not to count yourself in body form, because you are not body at all, that Reality is supposed to be accepted. Because you are not accepting, since childhood till today, we have accepted so many illusionary concepts and we are not ready to go out of these concepts. We are under the pressure of that vicious circle of various concepts.

So it is clear even if you think logically or intellectually, it is fact: this body is not your identity at all. Who is talking from this body, who is listening from this body? It is separate from the body identity, there is no form, just like space or sky, but we are not accepting it.

When you accept that Reality, then at certain stage, you will be thoughtless. Body identity will not remain, that is called strong meditation, where everything is forgotten, including yourself, entire world. Because entire world is projected out of your Presence, if there is no Presence within the body, who will talk about the world.

So, entire world, this illusionary world has taken birth because of your Presence only. So, main focus is your invisible Presence, unidentified Presence within the body. That Conviction is supposed to appear, you can read books, you can listen, but at the same time, try to digest that speech or digest what you have learned and listened. Try to accept it, try to have Conviction. Then only what you read, what you listened will materialize. Otherwise only listening is not sufficient, along with the listening, you have to continue the meditation.

Meditation means not only sitting idle, it is continuous reciting of the Mantra, Soham sadhana is given. According to breathing. When you’re sitting for meditation, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, half hour, one hour, sit with full concentration. If you are not getting time, it is not bad, okay, you can recite the Mantra wherever you are, while walking, while eating, every time, you can recite the Mantra. Only reciting Mantra is not technical reciting, try to accept the Reality.

What is the meaning of Mantra? ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’. That meaning is supposed to be absorbed within you, without which only reciting Mantra will not materialize. So be serious, it is very simple, you need not to go read so many books, you are not to go to so many Masters. Your own Master, Spiritual Master within you is Ultimate Truth.

So, after meditation entire Truth will be open within you because you are central point of this world. World does not have any existence. World’s existence came along with your Presence. So, this world does not have its own aspects. Therefore, we are talking about the world, we are talking about relations: my father, my sister, my Master, my God- so many relations are there. All relations, all requirements, all needs came along with the body only and then they will be dissolved along with the body, disappear along with the body.

So therefore, body identity is having some time, limit age limit, it is not your identity at all, you are beyond that, beyond that, because you are totally formless and since you are formless, no birth, no death, you are UNBORN.
So, accept the Reality that is the most important thing, otherwise only listening, only reading books is not serving your purpose, Ok?

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

Come With Open Heart Download Link

No confusion is there. It is plain and direct knowledge. Plain and direct knowledge. Plain and direct knowledge. Trying to use ego, intellect, mind, therefore confusion is there. So this knowledge means it is your own story. Issue of confusion never arises. I don’t want you, I don’t want any doubts within you. Come with open heart.

Q: He feels his thoughts like a bee buzzing. Bee that produce honey, like a buzzing. Buzzzz.

Just watch it. See a kind of cleaning process has started. Tenants are going out. Tenants are going out. They’ll not go simply, they will abuse you. You wanted them to vacate the premises. They are giving trouble for you. Good symptoms. Don’t allow them re-entry inside. You don’t have any doubts?

Q: No I do not have.

Don’t make any deliberate effort to know yourself. Don’t struggle with the thoughts. Whatever is happening, whatever is not happening, just glance and just watch it. When you observe the confusion you are beyond the confusion. Just you are sitting here something is happening outside are you giving any attention? So, in body something is happening or not happening. Watch it and just clear it. It is nature.

Q: How can he know that it is him the one who watches, not his mind?

Therefore you have to see all these things. If you are not watching, how can you come with all these words. ‘How can I?’ See entire thing whatever is happening or not happening you are realizing, seeing. Because you are experiencing some confusion is there, some struggle is there, experiencer is totally different from that trouble or confusion.

Q: He can not understand whether he watches or not, and some part of him always requires to fix this knowledge.

Don’t make deliberate effort. Why you want? You are separating from the Reality. ‘I want this, I want that.’ That ‘I’ is supposed to be dissolved totally.

Q: Looks like he understands. He has found the root that strangled him.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

‘I’ Without Properties Download Link

Q: Yes. This morning it was quite a strange feeling. The ‘I’ somehow separated from what I used to think was my ‘I’. It lost it’s properties, and was without any properties. Without time, without, without any properties. This ‘I’ was forever and it will be. There was no fear of death at that time.

M: Something is going on inside. Just observe it. Don’t concentrate ‘I’, don’t concentrate on what is happening. Don’t concentrate ‘I’, don’t concentrate on what is happening. That means you have to make some deliberate effort. Just be silent. See the fun. Whatever is happening, not happening, is upon you only. Just like a screen.

Q: If we recognize ourself with the help of this body, what is he going to know after the death of his body? If he does not manage to know himself during his lifespan, what is going on afterwards?

M: These are body based questions. Because at Ultimate stage there is no identity. ‘I am’, ‘you are’, ‘we are’, ‘what will happen to body?’, ‘what will happen to experience?’, ‘what will happen to experiencer?’, these are body based questions.

Q: After the death of the body the process of knowing, how will that go on?

M: How you are knowing? You do not know death, you do not know birth. During this lifetime you are knowing the terminology of death and birth.

Q: But the search happens during the lifetime.

M: Who wants this search? Who is searching and what does he want to have after the search? Again you are taking the body ego. Ultimate stage, nothing is there. All thinking process dissolves totally. ‘What will happen after death?’, ‘What was I prior to birth?’ these are the terminologies during this body form only. You are not knowing how you were prior to body knowledge. The moment this body disappears, who is saying what will happen to body? So whatever knowledge you listen that will be automatically absorbed within yourself.

Q: What is the process, what is it? If all knowledge is related only to the body, what is the process of transmitting this knowledge?

M: This is not a process at all. When you forgot your identity, just to indicate your identity, Ultimate Truth, this process of words, process of knowledge, is required. When there is conviction, so all these process disappear. You have address to reach Nashik Ashram. You are searching here and there, Nashik Ashram, where is it? During this time you are blindly following, yes this is correct. When you arrive at Nashik Ashram, the process is already over. You are not knowing the location of the Ashram, therefore you are searching here and there. You are asking questions of so many persons ‘where is the Ashram, where is the Ashram?’ like that. After reaching the destination, you are throwing away that address. Similarly all this process, thinking, knowledge and discussion is inviting attention of the invisible listener that behind everything your spontaneous Presence is there. All process is over. Ask if he has any doubts. Come, come.

Q: So he is not alive and he is not dead.

M: Why this question is? Who says ‘I am not alive, I am not dead?’ ‘I’ does not have any individual identity. Remove all the concepts. Just like sky does not have any individuality, similarly you do not have any individual identity. But, since you are covered with the body, therefore we feel ‘I am somebody else.’ Our thinking process on the basis of mind, intellect and ego. So, when all this mind, ego, intellect dissolves then nothing remains. Even ‘I’ does not remain at that last step. For discussion purposes we are using ‘I’, ‘we’, ‘you’, all these terminologies we are using. But, in that perfect, after ultimate stage, nothing remains.

Q: As soon as I have found ‘I’ without properties, you end it also.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

Process of Naam Mantra Download Link

Therefore importance of Naam Mantra is there. People say ‘I have got knowledge, so why should I undergo Naam Mantra?’ Apparently it’s OK. But, if you want to know yourself perfectly, if you want to identify perfectly, the process of Naam Mantra is most, most important. Because you might be having a lot of knowledge about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, etc. But, it is not practical, it is just what you say dry, dry knowledge.

Q: Some people claim that they have practical knowledge without Naam Mantra. Some people claim it is enough to read Nisargadatta Maharaj books, to follow his instructions, and without Naam Mantra they claim they have found Absolute knowledge, Absolute State.

It is not, it’s a question of foundation, finding out or attaining that Ultimate State. Because certain discipline you have to observe. Because on the background that body based knowledge is there, hidden, body based knowledge is hidden inside. Unless this dissolves, whatever you are building on that, the building will collapse. That is the basic. So therefore without Naam Mantra, ‘I attain spirituality, or I have got knowledge.’ It’s OK. But it is giving only temporary relief. One should undergo this process, then only. I will tell you one instance of Mr. Pagay a great philosopher and a great politician. He was at that time say 65 or 70 years in age. He used to discuss with Maharaj philosophy, everyday, for about six months. He read so many philosophy books including Veda’s, Janeshwar, Tukarum, etc. One day he told Maharaj ‘I know your knowledge very well, but it is not impressed inside.’ Then Maharaj gave an example that you know tree is there. Tree is there hangs on the side of building, tree is hanging on some walls, tree, seed plants the tree. How it is coming through some close, crevice. So it is rooted through that closed crevice. So like that spiritual knowledge should be rooted through Master’s only. If you put the seeds of the tree, it is not planted anywhere. Like that Guru Mantra process is a must for initial stage. It makes a perfect foundation of your spiritual knowledge. Everybody is having different opinion. Nisargadatta Maharaj never insisted anyone, he may be foreigner or anything, taking Naam Mantra and be my disciple, never, never. Then that man told Maharaj ‘I want to have Guru Mantra.’ Therefore the importance of Guru Mantra is most, see, is very, very essential. It’s not all the time. If you have got devotion just like Ekalavya, it is not impossible also. So, casual reading,casual enlightenment it is not so easy. But, if you have total involvement, ‘Yes, I want to know!’ If you totally surrender to the Master, whosoever is Master. It is not to say, his presence may not be there, he may not be in existence. But, if your involvement is strong, it is also possible. That type of devotion rarely happens. There should not be any type of wavering mind. Therefore, I am not insisting anybody, so many persons are coming to me, I am not insisting ‘Take my Guru Mantra, be my disciple.’ Nothing. I am discussing with them all spiritual secrets, I am not keeping aside any secret, I am putting out all secrets. How it is impressed to him, that is up to him.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

Trust Your Selfless Self Download Link

You can’t guess. ‘How I am’. ‘After death of body, what happens to me?’ Are you giving any thought when coming in this world? When Presence came into existence in body form, prior to that are you thinking what will happen? Just like a dream world. Seer’s reflection. Without your Presence you can’t see the world. This is ‘he’, ‘she’, ‘it’. Entire world is projected out of your spontaneous Presence. No death is there, no birth is there. To have this spontaneous conviction, again I am repeating, meditation is most important. Literally you are knowing, intellectually you’re knowing. Intellectual knowledge, literal knowledge. Knowledge is supposed to be spontaneous conviction. You are Reality, You are Reality. There is no knowledge, no knower. Unless body knowledge dissolves, we are not able to know ourself in a real sense. To dissolve the body knowledge, you have to undergo strict meditation. Not sitting like this. Know the Reality. Simple example, somebody abuses you, ‘I take revenge.’

Q: You can recite Mantra all the time?

Yes, Yes, you can recite the Mantra all the time. No restriction is there. Then it will be spontaneous. Example, you are Max. You are Max, no. Are you saying ‘I am Max, I am Max, I am Max.’ Thousand people call Max, ‘Oh, I am Max.’ That means that particular word, becomes close and close, there is no difference between Max and yourself. This body is called ‘Max’. You have got spontaneous conviction. Master says ‘You are Brahman.’ But you are not accepting that. You accept body knowledge, body name. This is called ‘hand’, this is called ‘fingers.’ Someone said this is fingers, same, they are something here. In your childhood, you are taught fingers. If taught different ‘Oh, no these are eyes, look at my eyes.’ So what you impress to the spirit, it accepted it. We have created the words, we have given the name to all of the words. Go deep and deep in your Selfless Self.

Q: Maharaj it appears the main problem is whom to trust? If oneself trusts his Guru, no problem at all. If oneself trusts somebody else, problem appears.

Trust your Selfless Self. Trust your Selfless Self. Because when you say Guru, to say Guru your Presence is required.

Q: My Guru is my Selfless Self.

Of course. If Selfless Self is not there, if Presence is not there, who will talk about the Guru and Master and God? Because you are unknown to you the form of the Guru is inviting attention that you are Ultimate Truth. Just like Lion and Lamb story. You are already Lion. You were brought up with some sheep and goats, therefore you say I am a goat and sheep. I leave you with the words of Nisargadatta Maharaj, very important words. Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master.

Q: But I do not except it literally.

It’s open fact. It’s open fact. To absorb this knowledge you have to undergo meditation. Concentration. You are not separate from Reality. You are Reality. Impression of the body is there ‘I am somebody else.’ Directly or indirectly you have strong impression of body. Therefore I am coming again and again to the same point. You were not body, you are not body, you are not going to remain body. It’s open fact. Prior to beingness you are formless, after leaving body you are formless. There won’t be any hell or heaven. You are master of your own. You are unknown to that Reality. Therefore you are shown, ‘You are Ultimate Truth’.

Q: So once you have established that ‘You Are That’ then the job is over.

It’s, not to say, it’s open truth. Only you are not accepting it because of the use of the body. It is Reality. Not to infer, not to intellectualize. Your Presence is Ultimate Truth, is Reality.

Q: So to reach this Reality.

Not to reach. You are Reality.

Q: You talked about that change inside Maharaj.

These are only sources.

Q: What I am asking is that without these things…..

But at that time you are posing yourself in body form.

Q: I am not posing….

When you have to think, you are making deliberate effort. ‘I am concentrating on myself very strongly.’ That means that myself is there in egoistic form. There is no ‘my self’ their is no ‘your self’, nothing is there.

Q: So Mantra is?

You say Aham Brahmasmi, these are only sources.

Q: I am Brahman.

I am Brahman like that, so it is like, I told you spirit is very sensitive. You are inviting attention of spirit ‘You are Ultimate Truth.’ Through Mantra, you are inviting meditator, that You are Ultimate Truth.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

After Knowing This Secret, Everything Will Disappear Download Link

Q: How he can keep this quietness which he acquired in Nashik in his everyday life. Because now when he returns to his place he will be more and more involved in his working troubles, so on and so forth. What is your advice?

M: Working troubles?

Q: Yes. Working troubles and family troubles, everyday problems.

M: Concentrate meditation, what we discussed last time. All these troubles appear because you are having body. Body is related to relations. Bound to affect you. So, in the process of body life; good things and bad things are bound to happen. Good thing means what we tolerate, we say is a ‘good thing’. What you’re not tolerating is a ‘bad thing’. So, how to take this matter it is up to us only. How to take this external happening or not happening, it is up to us only. If you take very seriously, it will definitely trouble you. Take it lightly. So, same situation may not remain constantly. Handle everything very tactfully. Handle these things very tactfully. Handle the things tactfully. Handle the situation tactfully. So far you are involving with them, therefore they are troubling you. Because all of these are body based relations. When there was no touch with the body all these relations were not there. The moment the spirit disappears from the body, there is no relation at all. So, your spontaneous existence is beyond all these worldly effects. Behind everything your spontaneous Presence is there. All these unpleasant or pleasant veils appear on your spontaneous Presence. Not to give so much importance to whatever you are experiencing. Concentrate on your inner experiencer, inner master. These are temporary storms. Sometimes they raise, sometimes they dissolve. But you stick up with your spontaneous Presence. When we came across with this world? the moment we touch or click with the body. After knowing this secret, everything will disappear. So, in brief, body based knowledge, is troubling you. But your existence is beyond body. So see your spontaneous Presence. It is not touched by, there is not any touch of body based knowledge. It means you are totally separate from all this world and worldly things. Always remember you are Supreme. You are providing power, energy to all these external, all these internal elements. Just remain the observer. You have got Self Realization. Because you have got a very good spiritual background. Put it in action. Not to give so much importance, what is happening or not happening. Because you are there, family members are there, business is there, so many people are there, entire world is there. But, it is your reflection. So, don’t struggle with the words, don’t struggle with the ego, mind or intellect. Just only spectator. So, then entire unpleasant atmosphere will be subsidized. You have internal peace. You will have internal silence. So be strong.

Q: He compares you to wind which removes the clouds from the sky.

M: It is by the Grace of Master. I want to make you very, very strong so you can face any type of storm. Because behind everything your tremendous energy is there. I am brushing your memories. So, therefore I tell you ‘You are not a beggar, you are millionaire.’ So, you do not require anybody’s Grace. The moment you know yourself in a real sense, everything will disappear or dissolve. So, no internal or external difficulties will trouble you. Always remember you are strong man. If any difficulties try to attack you it will be totally dissolved externally.

Q: It is clear, Thank You.

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

Stay in the I am, meditate on the I am, then you will go beyond the I am Download Link

Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj.

Q. When people practice the I Am meditation, they don’t seem to know how to cross over, or go beyond it?

M. Forget about spirituality. .to say I is ego. Why are you trying to remain in/as I? It means you are taking some ego and saying I am somebody else. I am… this means you are somebody else and you are to stay like this (eyes closed) “I” – this is duality. I! You have not to make any efforts. In the beginning, you are to accept that your I am is in existence. You are knowing I am through body only. It is open fact, the body is not your identity. So while remaining in the I am, you are considering yourself as somebody else and, with the subtle ego, you want to stay as “I Am”. This is not the Ultimate Truth which will not give you happiness. So your presence is spontaneous – don’t think, don’t apply the intellect, so, to stay in the I am, how to stay there is all illusion. You are already in that. It is already within you. But you are trying deliberately to remain in the I am. I am somebody else and I am to remain in the I am. Illusory concept! Be as it is! Reality, don’t think, don’t pressure the brain. The spontaneous feeling is just that… I am… there is no concept. As Nisargadatta Maharaj says: What is this body? Just glimpses of “I”. Just the glimpses of I which has no shape. no colour, no witness, no experiencer, just… (M holds his hands up and relaxed saying”I”. We’re tryng to experience I to be Brahman, Atman, and to do that you are having to be somebody else.

Q. So there is duality, there is a split?

M. Immediately! When you try to stay like that. Why to try? I want to stay Charles. I am Charles. You are already Charles, so why to be I am Charles. Charles has been given the name to this body. .It is not your Ultimate Reality. Similarly, your spontaneous presence, existence, is without shape. It is called Brahman, Atman, God… Name is given – I also is illusion. To say I, you are to take ego; to say Master, you are to take ego. You are neither Master or disciple. But for beginning, for understanding, we have to remain in that I. Q. Be as you are? M. Because you are. As I told you – you are Charles, why to remain in “I am Charles”… so, who says I am to remain there? Who says I am to remain?

Q. I think the understanding was that if you stay in the I am, meditate on the I am, then you will go beyond the I am. But everybody seems to be staying in the I am and not managing to go beyond.

M. You see your spontaneous existence manifested, so without you, there is not any focus. When I say I am, I stays there – subtle ego. Don’t make any effort. What to know through the various spiritual words, what they were trying to convey – don’t take literal meaning. Meditation is concentrating on the concentrator. It is spontaneous. It is spontaneous action.

Just like you are remaining as Charles, not as I am Charles, I am Charles. So, for 24hrs you are remaining as Charles, without making any effort. Similarly, to stay in I, to remain in I, you are already I, and name is given to the I – the invisible, anonymous identity. Name is given “I” to the invisible, anonymous, unidentified identity.

Q. So when people sit down and meditate on the I am…

M. At the beginning, meditation means you are concentrating… I told you what is meditation. Someone talks and abuses you, so for 24hours you are remembering that. That is meditation. So the same thing when you are told ‘I am Brahman’, you forget all body expressions / experiences, so like when a person abuses you, you won’t let go. I want to know Brahman, so you are taking the revenge, you’re all … every cell in the body, is having one goal, which is I am to take revenge on that, (mistaken body identity). And if someone tries to convince you or to forget, no, no, no.. the entire body is wanting to do the meditation. Entire body is consumed by anger, this is meditation. So when you are told that you are Brahman, you are Ultimate Truth, you are accepting life in this way. Then totally and spontaneously you forget about the body. Though you are living in the body, body is the external cover. That is why I told, to say I, to say you is illusion. I means through which you feel, through which you spontaneously feel. But it is presence without any shape, without any form. And then you say ‘I’ – the Ultimate Truth through which you know yourself in the real sense. Sometimes called I. I does not have any figure, no shape, formless.

You can’t realize presence through bodily I. Prior to beingness did you have any I? The total body dissolves and the presence also dies. Where has that I gone? The beingness disappears. And if the beingness disappears, where is that I? There’s no I, there’s no you, nothing is there. So why to say stay in the I? Why to remain in the I? You are dumping yourself in an illusory muddle. You’ve kept yourself in this balloon. You have this balloon and in this balloon you are dumping yourself, and trying to concentrate and remain there in the I. So you need to pop the balloon. So how to break the balloon?

Chickens, you know, eggs. Inside the chicken has a beak and it pecks and breaks out of the hard shell. So beak is given in the form of knowledge. You are in the circle the beak is given to break out of that circle (of illusion). That chicken inside, that baby is spontaneously breaking it – a thick cover. Q. So the beak represents knowledge which is used to break through the shell. M. Ultimate Truth is like that. What you call Brahman, Atman, Paramatman.. its action is spontaneous. When the egg matures the breakthrough happens. You see it is a very hard core. But that small chicken breaks it. So around us is hard core illusion. So with the knowledge, Ultimate knowledge, spiritual truth, peck and come out. You are your own Master.

So whatever you read or listen, to some extent, it is helpful but after reaching the final destination you do not need an address. So don’t take literally the meaning of what the Masters say. What they want to convey is most important. To remain in I is stuck… you have created a balloon, a concept, how to stay – it is not.

Q. Similar to Ramana Maharshi – and people who sit asking ‘Who am I?’ and last night you said ‘The answer is the questioner.’ – which made people laugh. And yet many people are sitting for years asking who am I? Similar to Nisargadatta’s… It’s self-enquiry.

M. Yes, self—enquiry. First stage self-enquiry, second stage self knowledge, third stage self- realization. So after getting so much knowledge, reading so many books, listening to Masters, you must ask where do I stand? Whether I am fearless? If the answer is no… tension-free life? If the answer is no? So out of this reading it knows… I am a blank cheque. I am blank. So having such knowledge should make you fearless. Because it’s simple knowledge, yu are not the body, you were not the body, you are not going to remain the body. Through body, you visualize and come across so many concepts. Prior to beingness you are not knowing who am I? It’s open secret. After the so-called death of the body total knowledge is dissolved with the disappearance of the body. After leaving the body, who says ‘I am’? I am also disappears along with the body. The moment the beingness came when the spirit clicked with the body. So from the beginning yo say I, I, I… So prior to beingness there is no I, after the body dissolves
– no I. So why to concentrate on the ‘I’?

Siddharameshwar and the Dasbodh said prior to beingness there is no I, after the disappearance of the body there is no I, in between how did that I come? So think of this in the light of all the knowledge.

Q. So in a way one could say that I am needs to be removed?

M. In body form you are saying I am.

Q. But if the meditation on I am does not lead to Ultimate Reality then it’s not very helpful to meditate on I am?

M. Why to remain in the I am when we are already there. But you are colouring with form. Meditation on I am when you are already… Prior to beingness where is the I, as I told you, I is just like the sky. This is reality. We are giving this America, India, words, names like Brahman Atman, Parabrahman… I is there. Why to concentrate on I? You’re already there, just to realize the body is not my identity. Because you are not accepting that the body is not your identity, you like to remain in I. Because you are not coming out from the body identity. Body identity was not there, body identity is not going to remain there constantly. At present, though you remain in the body it is not your Ultimate Truth. So you’re concentrating on something else, I am going to remain in I. … Master says you are to undergo the meditation. Why you want to remain in I? This is not meditation. You are unaware of your identity. You are unknown to you.

That unknown spirit is covered with the illusory thoughts. Mind, ego, intellect, so many thoughts. To come out of this illusory field,….mantra is given. What is the meaning of mantra? I am Brahman, Brahman I am. So like I am That, I am That. So after concentrating this, you forget your identity, you forget I also. At a particular moment, you are totally

invisible to everything. No experience, no nothing. At a particular moment, I disappears, I also disappears. To say I some subtle ego is there.

So through meditation you… become blind to everything like a trance. But trance also has witness – so beyond trance. Trance also is witness, so …I had a good sleep, so who said, and who sleeps? The seer is there, I had a very good sleep, peaceful sleep. Who had the peaceful sleep? The seer is there in invisible form. We are using I. So likewise we are to convince you. It’s open secret – name I is given to that Ultimate Truth. Name I is given to that invisible Ultimate Truth. And therefore, to know yourself in the real sense, all this meditation, concentration, self-inquiry, bhajan, knowledge – these are the various steps.

After having conviction, nothing to do. Your reaction is spontaneous action. Why are you trying to remain in the I am? You’re already there. You’re already in the ashram, so why you try to remain there? You don’t say I will reamin in ashram, I remain in Ashram… So meditation is just to forget the body identity. Just to forget mind, ego, intellect. These are the
… your landmarks. So beginners are given meditation, after this it is spontaneous. So I am meditating I, is what? Meditating is different, I is different…

Q. Back into the duality – subject-object.

M. Yes! You see when there is no object, the question of subject never arises. So you say I am object, I am to become something else. You are already there, why to become. How to become Charles, you are already Charles. Likewise, you are already I. I am the name given to that Ultimate Truth, invisible, truth, anonymous truth. It is the indication, because names are used. How long are you going to remain I for? I does not have any identity. You are posing yourself I as someone else..….

I tell you a story… one foreigner came to India and he asked who made the Taj Mahal? And the guide said ‘I don’t know’. He visited so many places and asked that question… I don’t know the name of the person… sees a dead body being carried and asks who is that? Again guide says I don’t know. So he says this meaning he does not know the name of anything, any person. All is entire dream and therefore I don’t know….. I don’t know who died…Likewise the entire world is I don’t know. Just for understanding… So prior to beingness there was no
I. After dissolving beingness, there is no I. Whatever feels that I through body only. So here you are giving shape to that I. Making it a balloon. I does not have any identity.…

Q. Having read some Nisargadatta Maharaj, I got the impression that the I am was the doorway and like a tunnel, you had to go through the I am, like the chicken with the egg.

M. I am is the process. You know algebra – and you get the proper answer X or Y… and from that X you come to the right answer. So I is just an X after that process of I you are coming to the truth. The real answer. It is a process, through the I you are coming to the Final Truth…

Q. As long as you don’t stay with the I all the time? It is becoming no movement to stay in the

I. Because I told you that during a meditation, I had this concept of Nisargadatta Maharaj, ‘Stay at the door, the door is open… and the door became a block and then I realized that there was no door.

M. There’s no door at all. Because walls are there, bodies are there.

Q. I removed the door and I was through…what I mean is that the door was no longer there.

M. So you broke yourself with the concepts. Master has given key how to open the door. Ok

Sri Ramakant Maharaj

You are steady. Everything is moving around you. When you are traveling on train. You are steady train is running, trees are also running. You are there and there only. So likewise, your existence is beyond sky. So, what I want to convey to you is that without body your existence is beyond sky. So don’t worry what will happen, ‘I dreamt this body, what will happen to that soul’ or whatever. Nothing is going to happen. When you come in this world as a man or woman, have you thought prior to birth ‘I will take birth in Russia’? Therefore totally don’t have any pressure of body. Enjoy this life peacefully, happily. Do your job efficiently. So now you have got Ultimate Truth in you.

That is sufficient, what do you want more?

These are invaluable jewels given to you. Why to beg for somebody’s grace? One Saint from Ashram, he came here after discussion he says ‘Put your hand on my head’ Why? You can put your own hand on your head. Because he was not, he is about 75, so his devotion more than 50 – 60 years in this field. He had not come across such knowledge. So he wanted to come again, he is suffering from his diabetic condition, has heart condition. Even though after 60 years journey he came here. He was a Swami. So this is direct, this knowledge is very, very rare.

Q: Maharaj, another paragraph from the book.

OK.

Q: We don’t know about the specific Ganesha gesture.

‘The spiritual path is very easy’ it’s very easy. I am trying to tell you, spiritual path is very, very easy it is your own story. ‘Attention which is on this side needs to be shifted to the other side’. We are having attention on body, all the time concentrating body, therefore that attention should be paid to the Ultimate Truth. ‘Ganesha idol is God for pleasant thoughts and offer sweets’. Your presenting flowers etc. You are doing everything for the idol. ‘However you do not pay any attention to what he says by his hand gesture. He shows, directly he shows, a pinch between thumb and finger to say “Only this is the mistake which has to be corrected’.

Q: What does that explain?

I’ll tell you. He is directing you pinch thumb and finger. Like this. Only this is the little mistake we are making.
Instead of having attention that ‘I am Brahman’ You are talking as a man or woman, in body form. That means you are Ultimate Truth, but you are committing a little mistake that ‘I am somebody else’.

Who says, ‘I am’? Download Link

Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj August 2, 2017.

“Who says “I am”? How that “I am” is? You can’t guess. There is No Logic. There no any inferences. You can’t define also. I Am Beyond Definition, because It is not having specific identity. See what is in the body? Just Glimpses of ‘I’ only. I Am, Just I So there’s no need of any – have of gods and goddesses. God and goddesses are imaginary. Saint Tukaram said “All gods and goddesses are imaginary gods and goddesses.” They’ve taken birth along with this body. This Body Is Not Your Identity At All. So identification of gods and goddesses came along with the body only. As a matter of fact, existence of god, or creation of god, came across along with the body and you are not body at all.

So what is the Purpose of Spirituality? You are holding so many bodies, male body, female body. Who is listening from this body? Who is talking through the body? Who is making activity from the body? That Invisible Unidentified Energy called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master That You Are!

But since childhood until today, and so because of long association with the body, we are having strong faith, belief, in this food-body. Food-body having some time-limit. Not to the Holder of the food-body. So now, we can understand intellectually. I Am Not Body, It Is Fact, it is Open Fact. Body is having some time-limit, 60, 70, 80 years, what-have-me. After, willingly or unwillingly you are to leave the body. So, we are to Identify Our Self In Real-Sense. We are identifying our self in body-form, that is illusion. So, we are to discriminate what is illusion, what is The Reality. What You See It is Illusion, Through Which You See It Is Reality. Through Which You See It is Called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master That You Are. But all the time we are measuring our self in body-form and that is illusion. So, Try to Identify. Because so many concepts engraved upon you since childhood until today. You are man or a woman, you are dying, death is there, birth is there, past life, future life. No Life Is There!

Why to count beads? Some people think you count beads, what is the use of counting beads? Take so many “ram, hanuman, jai hanuman, jai ram jai ram” why what is the use? Nothing is there, it is meaningless. Prior to beingness do you think that “jai ram jai ram jai ram”? No jai ram jai ram jai ram. So, though the Spirit tempted to count the beads “Ram Ram, Ram”, I Am Inviting Attention of That Spirit That Yourself Is Ram! Ram is not separate. They mention that, it is said that in the – religious science says, Brahma is giving birth. Then Vishnu is protecting or supplying food or something, taking care of the bodies. And third thing is Shiva. He is vanishing the bodies like that. The god of death, the Shiva-God. The caretaker, Vishnu. And birth-giving by Brahma. Here is the question, ok, who has given birth to Brahma? Who is Brahma’s Father? ‘Brahma is your father’, who is the father of Brahma. Vishnu taking care of you, who is taking care of the Vishnu? Then, god of death is Shiva. So, what happened to Shiva? Who is taking his soul from, when his time is end, after his death? So, these are the concepts developed, religious science, it is imaginary. And we’re again, we’re developing the same concept, under the pressure of the same concept. So, you are to discard all these concepts, no reasoning is there. “Ram, Ram, Vishnu, Vishnu “all these concept, a waste of time. You are to come to some conclusion.
Yes, you want to ask something?

Q: Maharaj, even for discussion, exactly for discussion can we say like, Ultimate Truth used body for to know Itself?

Maharaj: Ultimate truth is Not….

Q: Only for discussion

Maharaj: Ultimate Truth is Not Separate from You.

Q: For discussion, to separate it.

Maharaj: It is Ultimate Truth because around Ultimate Truth so many concepts are there. So, one should not become the victim of all these illusionary concepts. What I am referring, all this background, because there are so many things are there. And people asking “yes is this last birth is there, future birth is there? If I take “Ram, Ram” Naam is it ok? (inaudible) Naam is there, so many – Hanuman Chalisi is there, so many concepts. These are the concept. Not bad. In the beginning it’s necessary. But it is not useful at the time of leaving your body. If you say “Ram, Ram, Ram, Ram” at the time of leaving the body, it will not help you. This is just a name given to some body-based-concept. To say ‘Ram, Ram’ also to say some ‘Shivaya, Shivaya’, energy is required. I Am Inviting Attention Of That, That Energy Through Which You Are Talking, through which you are watching the world, through which you are watching your dreams and all. That energy called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master That You are. After Spontaneous Conviction, your all actions or reactions will be illusionary. Because after Conviction appears Spontaneously there is no birth, no death. Why should I afraid of the death? No death is there. What is the body? Nothing is there, just Glimpses of ‘I’ is there.

Therefore, to have Spontaneous Conviction, you are to undergo strictly meditation. Meditation just hammering, as I have told, hammering. Because you have forgot your Identity. Though you have got direct knowledge, I am Brahman, it is not confirmed, it is not convinced, it is not, there is no conviction. To have Spontaneous Conviction you are to undergo strictly meditation. Through meditation you are hammering yourself ‘I am Brahman – Brahman I am – I am Brahman – I Am Brahman. It is Called Soham Sadhana. So that is the base of this spiritual knowledge. With the result all concept, of religious concept, or any concept will be discarded. In the Bhagavad Gita it is said that – I give some reference for your knowledge – what he says, “discard all religion (speaking Marathi) discard all religion, and through Which the real form came into existence that Invisible I, You Bow Down to That.” Through which you are identifying all religions, forget about it, it is meant just for a happiness or for peacefulness of the society. So, discard all this, it is illusionary religion. So, Presence appear in you, Invisible Presence appear in you since you are Ultimate Truth. So, the purpose behind that, Except Your Selfless Self there is No God, No Brahman, No Atman, No Paramatman. Ram, Krishna – so many names are given to that Ultimate Truth, but it is not that, it is for the identification. It is not ram, Krishna, or something, something. Therefore Tukaram, Saint Tukaram said “All these are imaginary god, and will dissolve with the imaginations. You Are Separate from That. So be stick up with the Real, with Reality. It is the Reality, called Ultimate Truth That You Are. That’s the Principal of Spirituality.”

Sri Ramakant Maharaj