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Come With Open Heart
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No confusion is there. It is plain and direct knowledge. Plain and direct knowledge. Plain and direct knowledge. Trying to use ego, intellect, mind, therefore confusion is there. So this knowledge means it is your own story. Issue of confusion never arises. I don’t want you, I don’t want any doubts within you. Come with open heart.
Q: He feels his thoughts like a bee buzzing. Bee that produce honey, like a buzzing. Buzzzz.
Just watch it. See a kind of cleaning process has started. Tenants are going out. Tenants are going out. They’ll not go simply, they will abuse you. You wanted them to vacate the premises. They are giving trouble for you. Good symptoms. Don’t allow them re-entry inside. You don’t have any doubts?
Q: No I do not have.
Don’t make any deliberate effort to know yourself. Don’t struggle with the thoughts. Whatever is happening, whatever is not happening, just glance and just watch it. When you observe the confusion you are beyond the confusion. Just you are sitting here something is happening outside are you giving any attention? So, in body something is happening or not happening. Watch it and just clear it. It is nature.
Q: How can he know that it is him the one who watches, not his mind?
Therefore you have to see all these things. If you are not watching, how can you come with all these words. ‘How can I?’ See entire thing whatever is happening or not happening you are realizing, seeing. Because you are experiencing some confusion is there, some struggle is there, experiencer is totally different from that trouble or confusion.
Q: He can not understand whether he watches or not, and some part of him always requires to fix this knowledge.
Don’t make deliberate effort. Why you want? You are separating from the Reality. ‘I want this, I want that.’ That ‘I’ is supposed to be dissolved totally.
Q: Looks like he understands. He has found the root that strangled him.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
‘I’ Without Properties
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Q: Yes. This morning it was quite a strange feeling. The ‘I’ somehow separated from what I used to think was my ‘I’. It lost it’s properties, and was without any properties. Without time, without, without any properties. This ‘I’ was forever and it will be. There was no fear of death at that time.
M: Something is going on inside. Just observe it. Don’t concentrate ‘I’, don’t concentrate on what is happening. Don’t concentrate ‘I’, don’t concentrate on what is happening. That means you have to make some deliberate effort. Just be silent. See the fun. Whatever is happening, not happening, is upon you only. Just like a screen.
Q: If we recognize ourself with the help of this body, what is he going to know after the death of his body? If he does not manage to know himself during his lifespan, what is going on afterwards?
M: These are body based questions. Because at Ultimate stage there is no identity. ‘I am’, ‘you are’, ‘we are’, ‘what will happen to body?’, ‘what will happen to experience?’, ‘what will happen to experiencer?’, these are body based questions.
Q: After the death of the body the process of knowing, how will that go on?
M: How you are knowing? You do not know death, you do not know birth. During this lifetime you are knowing the terminology of death and birth.
Q: But the search happens during the lifetime.
M: Who wants this search? Who is searching and what does he want to have after the search? Again you are taking the body ego. Ultimate stage, nothing is there. All thinking process dissolves totally. ‘What will happen after death?’, ‘What was I prior to birth?’ these are the terminologies during this body form only. You are not knowing how you were prior to body knowledge. The moment this body disappears, who is saying what will happen to body? So whatever knowledge you listen that will be automatically absorbed within yourself.
Q: What is the process, what is it? If all knowledge is related only to the body, what is the process of transmitting this knowledge?
M: This is not a process at all. When you forgot your identity, just to indicate your identity, Ultimate Truth, this process of words, process of knowledge, is required. When there is conviction, so all these process disappear. You have address to reach Nashik Ashram. You are searching here and there, Nashik Ashram, where is it? During this time you are blindly following, yes this is correct. When you arrive at Nashik Ashram, the process is already over. You are not knowing the location of the Ashram, therefore you are searching here and there. You are asking questions of so many persons ‘where is the Ashram, where is the Ashram?’ like that. After reaching the destination, you are throwing away that address. Similarly all this process, thinking, knowledge and discussion is inviting attention of the invisible listener that behind everything your spontaneous Presence is there. All process is over. Ask if he has any doubts. Come, come.
Q: So he is not alive and he is not dead.
M: Why this question is? Who says ‘I am not alive, I am not dead?’ ‘I’ does not have any individual identity. Remove all the concepts. Just like sky does not have any individuality, similarly you do not have any individual identity. But, since you are covered with the body, therefore we feel ‘I am somebody else.’ Our thinking process on the basis of mind, intellect and ego. So, when all this mind, ego, intellect dissolves then nothing remains. Even ‘I’ does not remain at that last step. For discussion purposes we are using ‘I’, ‘we’, ‘you’, all these terminologies we are using. But, in that perfect, after ultimate stage, nothing remains.
Q: As soon as I have found ‘I’ without properties, you end it also.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Process of Naam Mantra
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Therefore importance of Naam Mantra is there. People say ‘I have got knowledge, so why should I undergo Naam Mantra?’ Apparently it’s OK. But, if you want to know yourself perfectly, if you want to identify perfectly, the process of Naam Mantra is most, most important. Because you might be having a lot of knowledge about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, etc. But, it is not practical, it is just what you say dry, dry knowledge.
Q: Some people claim that they have practical knowledge without Naam Mantra. Some people claim it is enough to read Nisargadatta Maharaj books, to follow his instructions, and without Naam Mantra they claim they have found Absolute knowledge, Absolute State.
It is not, it’s a question of foundation, finding out or attaining that Ultimate State. Because certain discipline you have to observe. Because on the background that body based knowledge is there, hidden, body based knowledge is hidden inside. Unless this dissolves, whatever you are building on that, the building will collapse. That is the basic. So therefore without Naam Mantra, ‘I attain spirituality, or I have got knowledge.’ It’s OK. But it is giving only temporary relief. One should undergo this process, then only. I will tell you one instance of Mr. Pagay a great philosopher and a great politician. He was at that time say 65 or 70 years in age. He used to discuss with Maharaj philosophy, everyday, for about six months. He read so many philosophy books including Veda’s, Janeshwar, Tukarum, etc. One day he told Maharaj ‘I know your knowledge very well, but it is not impressed inside.’ Then Maharaj gave an example that you know tree is there. Tree is there hangs on the side of building, tree is hanging on some walls, tree, seed plants the tree. How it is coming through some close, crevice. So it is rooted through that closed crevice. So like that spiritual knowledge should be rooted through Master’s only. If you put the seeds of the tree, it is not planted anywhere. Like that Guru Mantra process is a must for initial stage. It makes a perfect foundation of your spiritual knowledge. Everybody is having different opinion. Nisargadatta Maharaj never insisted anyone, he may be foreigner or anything, taking Naam Mantra and be my disciple, never, never. Then that man told Maharaj ‘I want to have Guru Mantra.’ Therefore the importance of Guru Mantra is most, see, is very, very essential. It’s not all the time. If you have got devotion just like Ekalavya, it is not impossible also. So, casual reading,casual enlightenment it is not so easy. But, if you have total involvement, ‘Yes, I want to know!’ If you totally surrender to the Master, whosoever is Master. It is not to say, his presence may not be there, he may not be in existence. But, if your involvement is strong, it is also possible. That type of devotion rarely happens. There should not be any type of wavering mind. Therefore, I am not insisting anybody, so many persons are coming to me, I am not insisting ‘Take my Guru Mantra, be my disciple.’ Nothing. I am discussing with them all spiritual secrets, I am not keeping aside any secret, I am putting out all secrets. How it is impressed to him, that is up to him.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Not Aware Prior To Body Consciousness
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As long as we are having association with the body, different types of feelings, questions, temptations are bound to be there. At the same time you are witnessing different climate, different feelings inside. When we are getting trouble is when we accept that feeling or thoughts as my thought, then it reflects something good thing or bad thing. If you remain yourself aloof from the thoughts, letting thoughts come and go, then these thoughts or feelings will not trouble you. Which thoughts or feelings are useful or to accept it and which thought not to be accepted, that you have to decide. Because we are holding body different types of thoughts, feelings, so many things are going to be happening, flowing all the time. Because these feelings, thoughts, temptations, various types of feelings we are not aware prior to body consciousness. The moment spirit touched or clicked with the body, all these feelings and mind, ego, intellect, impressions, so many things, happiness, unhappiness started. And because we are not knowing ourself perfectly we are thrown into that feeling and suffering bad thing, good thing, happiness, unhappiness, like that. Self knowledge, inviting attention of your invisible spirit that you are totally different from all this body based knowledge. I’ll repeat it. See, spiritual knowledge, spiritual knowledge is inviting attention of invisible identity that you are totally different from all this thoughts, feelings, temptations, mind, ego, intellect. Because they came across with you when there was a touch of that spirit with the body only. When there is no body experience you are not knowing what is mind, what is ego, what is intellect, what is good thing, what is bad thing, what is happiness, what is unhappiness, what is peace, nothing you’re knowing. Principle behind the Self knowledge is you are totally separate, totally independent from all these feelings. To establish this reality, you are given to undergo certain process, like meditation. After practicing meditation, after reciting that Mantra, Guru Mantra, some dramatic, miraculous changes will take place inside. Then you will go closer and closer to your Selfless Self, unidentified identity. Though you are feeling your existence, but at the same time that existence is not related to any body knowledge. Similarly your unidentified identity is not connected with any body based knowledge. With this available spiritual knowledge you try to convince yourself that ‘I am totally separate from all this body knowledge.’ The moment that there is conviction then, there will be no attachment with the body based knowledge, no happiness, no unhappiness, no temptations, no experience though there’s mind, ego, intellect, you are totally untouched by them. You are only using this (body) for temporary purpose, just as I am consuming this tea. I am forgetting after having tea. Similarly whatever thoughts are flowing inside good thoughts or bad thoughts, any type of feelings, are having temporary aspects, they are coming and going. But you are there just like standing on the bank of a river and so many things are flowing from the river, you are not concerned what is happening, what is flowing from the river. Whatever water you want you are taking the water and then going away. Similarly with the mind, ego, intellect, whatever thoughts are flowing inside accepting that thought, after using that thought, throw it, forget it. With the result that you will not become a victim of your mind, ego, intellect.
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Trust Your Selfless Self
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You can’t guess. ‘How I am’. ‘After death of body, what happens to me?’ Are you giving any thought when coming in this world? When Presence came into existence in body form, prior to that are you thinking what will happen? Just like a dream world. Seer’s reflection. Without your Presence you can’t see the world. This is ‘he’, ‘she’, ‘it’. Entire world is projected out of your spontaneous Presence. No death is there, no birth is there. To have this spontaneous conviction, again I am repeating, meditation is most important. Literally you are knowing, intellectually you’re knowing. Intellectual knowledge, literal knowledge. Knowledge is supposed to be spontaneous conviction. You are Reality, You are Reality. There is no knowledge, no knower. Unless body knowledge dissolves, we are not able to know ourself in a real sense. To dissolve the body knowledge, you have to undergo strict meditation. Not sitting like this. Know the Reality. Simple example, somebody abuses you, ‘I take revenge.’
Q: You can recite Mantra all the time?
Yes, Yes, you can recite the Mantra all the time. No restriction is there. Then it will be spontaneous. Example, you are Max. You are Max, no. Are you saying ‘I am Max, I am Max, I am Max.’ Thousand people call Max, ‘Oh, I am Max.’ That means that particular word, becomes close and close, there is no difference between Max and yourself. This body is called ‘Max’. You have got spontaneous conviction. Master says ‘You are Brahman.’ But you are not accepting that. You accept body knowledge, body name. This is called ‘hand’, this is called ‘fingers.’ Someone said this is fingers, same, they are something here. In your childhood, you are taught fingers. If taught different ‘Oh, no these are eyes, look at my eyes.’ So what you impress to the spirit, it accepted it. We have created the words, we have given the name to all of the words. Go deep and deep in your Selfless Self.
Q: Maharaj it appears the main problem is whom to trust? If oneself trusts his Guru, no problem at all. If oneself trusts somebody else, problem appears.
Trust your Selfless Self. Trust your Selfless Self. Because when you say Guru, to say Guru your Presence is required.
Q: My Guru is my Selfless Self.
Of course. If Selfless Self is not there, if Presence is not there, who will talk about the Guru and Master and God? Because you are unknown to you the form of the Guru is inviting attention that you are Ultimate Truth. Just like Lion and Lamb story. You are already Lion. You were brought up with some sheep and goats, therefore you say I am a goat and sheep. I leave you with the words of Nisargadatta Maharaj, very important words. Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master.
Q: But I do not except it literally.
It’s open fact. It’s open fact. To absorb this knowledge you have to undergo meditation. Concentration. You are not separate from Reality. You are Reality. Impression of the body is there ‘I am somebody else.’ Directly or indirectly you have strong impression of body. Therefore I am coming again and again to the same point. You were not body, you are not body, you are not going to remain body. It’s open fact. Prior to beingness you are formless, after leaving body you are formless. There won’t be any hell or heaven. You are master of your own. You are unknown to that Reality. Therefore you are shown, ‘You are Ultimate Truth’.
Q: So once you have established that ‘You Are That’ then the job is over.
It’s, not to say, it’s open truth. Only you are not accepting it because of the use of the body. It is Reality. Not to infer, not to intellectualize. Your Presence is Ultimate Truth, is Reality.
Q: So to reach this Reality.
Not to reach. You are Reality.
Q: You talked about that change inside Maharaj.
These are only sources.
Q: What I am asking is that without these things…..
But at that time you are posing yourself in body form.
Q: I am not posing….
When you have to think, you are making deliberate effort. ‘I am concentrating on myself very strongly.’ That means that myself is there in egoistic form. There is no ‘my self’ their is no ‘your self’, nothing is there.
Q: So Mantra is?
You say Aham Brahmasmi, these are only sources.
Q: I am Brahman.
I am Brahman like that, so it is like, I told you spirit is very sensitive. You are inviting attention of spirit ‘You are Ultimate Truth.’ Through Mantra, you are inviting meditator, that You are Ultimate Truth.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
After Knowing This Secret, Everything Will Disappear
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Q: How he can keep this quietness which he acquired in Nashik in his everyday life. Because now when he returns to his place he will be more and more involved in his working troubles, so on and so forth. What is your advice?
M: Working troubles?
Q: Yes. Working troubles and family troubles, everyday problems.
M: Concentrate meditation, what we discussed last time. All these troubles appear because you are having body. Body is related to relations. Bound to affect you. So, in the process of body life; good things and bad things are bound to happen. Good thing means what we tolerate, we say is a ‘good thing’. What you’re not tolerating is a ‘bad thing’. So, how to take this matter it is up to us only. How to take this external happening or not happening, it is up to us only. If you take very seriously, it will definitely trouble you. Take it lightly. So, same situation may not remain constantly. Handle everything very tactfully. Handle these things very tactfully. Handle the things tactfully. Handle the situation tactfully. So far you are involving with them, therefore they are troubling you. Because all of these are body based relations. When there was no touch with the body all these relations were not there. The moment the spirit disappears from the body, there is no relation at all. So, your spontaneous existence is beyond all these worldly effects. Behind everything your spontaneous Presence is there. All these unpleasant or pleasant veils appear on your spontaneous Presence. Not to give so much importance to whatever you are experiencing. Concentrate on your inner experiencer, inner master. These are temporary storms. Sometimes they raise, sometimes they dissolve. But you stick up with your spontaneous Presence. When we came across with this world? the moment we touch or click with the body. After knowing this secret, everything will disappear. So, in brief, body based knowledge, is troubling you. But your existence is beyond body. So see your spontaneous Presence. It is not touched by, there is not any touch of body based knowledge. It means you are totally separate from all this world and worldly things. Always remember you are Supreme. You are providing power, energy to all these external, all these internal elements. Just remain the observer. You have got Self Realization. Because you have got a very good spiritual background. Put it in action. Not to give so much importance, what is happening or not happening. Because you are there, family members are there, business is there, so many people are there, entire world is there. But, it is your reflection. So, don’t struggle with the words, don’t struggle with the ego, mind or intellect. Just only spectator. So, then entire unpleasant atmosphere will be subsidized. You have internal peace. You will have internal silence. So be strong.
Q: He compares you to wind which removes the clouds from the sky.
M: It is by the Grace of Master. I want to make you very, very strong so you can face any type of storm. Because behind everything your tremendous energy is there. I am brushing your memories. So, therefore I tell you ‘You are not a beggar, you are millionaire.’ So, you do not require anybody’s Grace. The moment you know yourself in a real sense, everything will disappear or dissolve. So, no internal or external difficulties will trouble you. Always remember you are strong man. If any difficulties try to attack you it will be totally dissolved externally.
Q: It is clear, Thank You.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
You Forget the Projector
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In our lineage, exceptional knowledge you will find. So, therefore I told you, all these books are indicating, that except your Self nothing is there. Because you are the source of this entire world. All god, goddesses, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, everything, they are your projection. You forget the projector and are trying to enjoy projections only. That is the mistake. Just saying when you saw the entire problem, but because of some little mistake you are in the problem. This is a silly mistake, childish mistake. Simple knowledge, simple knowledge. You have ever come across such knowledge before? Why approach so many masters? In our lineage, master is not taking any credit. Because there is no difference between masters and disciples. For conversation, for talking, we have to take ego ‘I am Master, and you are disciple or devotee.’ Bodies are different, spirit is the same. So, we are not doing any special thing. We are showing your identity. Your property, You are Master of Masters. Therefore I show you that silly mistake. OK.
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A Lot of Garbage Inside
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One thing is there, after spiritual knowledge, you are getting courage to face problems. Problems will be reduced. You’ll get tolerance, patience. How you will be with that particular problem, prior to realization, prior to spiritual knowledge, and how you will be after spiritual knowledge it changes. Today there may be unhappiness, tomorrow you may have exceptional happiness. But what happens is you concentrated, ‘why this, why this?’ You are trying, some or other way, to relate that problem to spiritual knowledge. ‘Why is this happening’, ‘why is that’ ‘why this irritation is there, why this depression is there’. So, it is a type of cleaning process. Body base, it creates some vibrations inside. Veils are there, layers are there, it’s cleaning. Purification stage. It happens to everybody, myself also. In my early stage, having taken Naam Mantra, prior to realization, always had bad, very bad dreams. Dead bodies are there, burning dead bodies, all this no sleep. I went to Nisargadatta Maharaj to tell about all these things, he said ‘Let happen, what happens’. Then one week, two weeks, I am in depression, because I am not yet having conviction. I am always asking ‘why this, why this.’ Then it goes away. Clean all this, all this mess is going out. All garbage is gone away. Inside, you know, like I told, there is a lot of garbage inside. A lot of garbage inside. This is renewed. Years together a lot of garbage is inside, so many concepts. As I told about the tenants. Now you have conviction, knowing the Reality. You know that body was not identity, is not my identity, body is not going to remain my identity. Through body all this action, being done by whom? It is called Brahman, invisible, anonymous, unidentified.
It is coming out. Don’t worry about it. For certain moment, for certain experience, everybody is having different experiences. Your experience may be different, his experience, etc. It depends upon vibrations, it depends upon the changes inside. One thing I’ll tell you is after having involvement with spiritual knowledge, so many changes taking place inside, you’ll feel it. Then ultimately there is exceptional peace, beyond imagination. Total peace, beyond… Then you are not required to go anywhere. There is no temptation or attraction of a material cause for happiness. Steady there. Until that, something happens. What is happening, we are trying to relate what is happening inside with spiritual knowledge. ‘I am spiritual man, how this happens?’ So my advice, just be calm and quiet. Have patience, I tell you, it is my experience also. It’s OK, some burning is there. Just like Nisargadatta Maharaj says ‘If drop of poison goes inside, there will be irritation.’
I am not angry with Nisargadatta Maharaj. No, no, no. Not like that. He is my Master. How can I get angry with my Master? No, no anger is there. Anger is at a physical level, mental level, intellectual level. So, you have to come out from physical level, intellectual level, mental level, egoistic level. We are going around within the circle, throw away. Circle says this is Master, this is disciple, you have to throw away. There is no difference between Master and disciple, only body. So why get angry? India sky different from China sky? Sky is sky. As long as essence of body is there, this is bound to happen. Essence of body is supposed to be dissolved. ‘I am somebody else’ as in Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, or spiritual man, and because I am considering ‘I am spiritual man, I am realized, this type of thing shouldn’t trouble me, irritate me’. We have made a frame, and if anything happens against that frame, irritation. Why to be angry.
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Ghostly Concept
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It is very easy, but very difficult also. To come out from all illusory circles, the Mantrra is inviting attention. In the begiining stage, at that level. Beginning stage. After knowing the Reality, you are not required to chant, it will be spontaneous. Example, this body is called man. You are not saying ‘I am man, I am man, I am man.’ Your living, day to day living just like a man. Parents said ‘This body is called man.’ and you accepted it totally, spontaneous conviction. ‘I am man’ is spontaneous conviction. I am not repeating ‘I am man’ mantra chanting ‘I am man, I am man.’ Your all actions are indicated by ‘I am a man’ only. Likewise, Master says ‘You are Brahman, this is Reality.’ In the beginning to have conviction, you have to undergo this process. Thereafter it is ‘oh, I am Brahman.’ No individuality is there. No concept is there. No knowledge is there. No experience is there, no experiencer is there.
Q: So we just remain alert?
M: Conviction. Your inviting attention of your Selfless Self. Those external force is there. Reminding when your weak, negative. Yes. It’s process. Why bhajan is required? Why meditation is required? Why knowledge is required?
Q: Is it possible to forget completely?
M: Yes, it happens completely. Definately.
Q: I cannot fear that I forget this power completely?
M: No, No. Therefore Nisargadatta Maharaj says “If you take a drop of poison, it happens automatically, you need not required to say ‘What the consequence is?’ If you take a drop of posion, it acts automatically. Like that, Master implanted exceptional plant, it will grow up. Without your knowledge, then like this ‘Oh’. Fear is there because so far as posing ourself in body form. Not to do anything, not to expect, not to think it. Be as it is, be normal. Be normal, be simple, be humble. Slowly, silently, permanantly, it will go away. Knowledge is not wasted. Suppose that plant is there, there is some channel, formed channel is there, when putting water here, it is not flowing immediately, absorb, absorb, absorb than it starts to flow. Like this, knowledge, Reality is absorbing, absorbing, then you see the flow. You have to be involved. After knowing the Reality, you have full involvement. Because, we are living in some different environment. Karma, Dharma, so many concepts are there. Last birth, future birth, destiny. Good deeds, bad deeds. So, to come out of all these illusory influences, you have to be alert. Even though you are knowing that is a wrong thing. I’ll give example. Child says there is a ghost in the tree. Small child says ‘There is a ghost in that particular tree.’ After that child grows into a man, the impression is there ‘Oh, there is a ghost in that tree.’ Fear will be there. Because that ghostly concept is implanted by his parents in his heart. When he is grown up, he will be going the other way, to avoid ghost. It’s not true, but that particular concept is implated by his parents ‘In that tree, a ghost is there.’ Reality, nothing is there. Therefore to come out from all these illusory concepts, meditation is there, bhajan is there, knowledge is there. Ultimate stage it is not neccasary. Bhajan is illusion, meditation is also illusion. Nothing is required. Only in the beginning you have to do it. Yesterday, I told like alphabets. Not to think so much. Intellect or mind is very crazy, no. Mind all the time, biting all the time.
Q: I know you even recommend to take photos of Saints, yes?
M: Why, because when you take photos, you see all these masters, you get some remembrance. Inspiration. Power. In that is a lot of power. Vibrations come inside. Because, forms are different, but your Presence is there. There is no difference between, that Presence and your Presence. One person asked the question to Nisargadatta Maharaj ‘What is the difference between you and me?’ No difference is there. Bodies are different. Presence is one.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Questioner’s Identity
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We are under the pressure, the influence, of all these illusory concepts. Spiritual knowledge removes all this wrong. What you’re posing in this world, it’s wrong, illusion. You are separate from that. Entire world is a projection out of your spontaneous Presence. If Presence is not there, who will talk about the world? Who will talk about the ‘I’, ‘you’, ‘he’, ‘she’, ‘it’, nothing. Who will talk about the Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God? Who will talk about the Master and disciple? All these concepts are there. You’re no more Master, you’re no more disciple. No God is there, you have given birth to God. Siddharameshwar says ‘I am father of God’.
Q: Maharaj, Presence is also nothing?
You have to use some words, without which you can’t talk with each other. You are giving the meaning of Presence, like ‘I’, ‘you’, ‘he’, ‘she’, ‘it’ created all these words. Just to have a conversation. To say ‘it’, put two lines together like this, you say ‘A’, ‘B’. All this language is created by us, just to convey, for this purpose. So, not to pay so much attention, not to be slave of literal knowledge. Literal knowledge, bookish knowledge, it has some importance up to a certain level. Who’s knowledge? Who is devotee? What identity? See, all this world is just to indicate you are Ultimate Truth. As Nisargadatta Maharaj says, remember these words, very important ‘Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master.’ Entire gist of Spirituality is in this ‘Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master’. Know yourself and be calm and quiet.
Then what do you want? Where is devotee, where is devotion? There is no ‘I’, there is no, nothing is there. So, everything is within your spontaneous Presence. The Presence is unidentified identity. Presence is, unidentified identity, it’s invisible identity, it’s anonymous identity. You can’t guess intellectually. You can’t infer. It’s the listener’s identity. Body is only a cover, just like these clothes. It’s questioners identity. To say ‘I’, to say ‘you’ Presence is required. Who will talk about knowledge, knowledge and knower is also illusion. Knowledge is illusion, knower is illusion. Listen to me. Meditator is illusion, meditation is also illusion. Come to know this. But in beginning it is required, to establish, to have some foundation. You’re asking, after knowing the Reality why you are insisting meditation? ‘After knowing the Reality, why are you insisting on meditation?’ Because, through meditation, you are inviting attention of the invisible meditator, that you are Ultimate Truth. Through meditation, you are inviting attention of the invisible meditator within you, that you are Ultimate Truth. You forgot your identity. ‘I am somebody else, I am man or woman, I am Brahman, Atman, Paramatman.’ You have accepted all these concepts. ‘I am God’, also a concept. You’re something, no? You say, ‘I am God, I am Brahma, I am Lord Shiva’, these are also concepts. To say, ‘Lord Shiva’ to say ‘Brahma’ some Presence is required. That Presence doesn’t know ‘I am Brahma, Krishna or Lord Shiva’. We have given the names, this is ‘Lord Krishna’ this is…
Bodies are different. Essence is one ‘I am’. Prior to ‘I am’ Presence is there. Through words we are indicating the listener’s Ultimate Truth. So, all experience, all experiencer, also is illusion. No experience. Because to have experience, experiencer is required. But, just for conversation, just for convincing purposes, we are using so many words. Without words you can’t talk. We have given names say devotee, devotion, deity. Devotee, devotion and deity. Devotee, devotion and deity. That’s it, all inside, you go deep and deeper you find the Selfless Self-knowledge. Reality the same, devotee the same devotion, deity same.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj