There is no binding, no conditions. Nothing is required, it is free of charge. Presence is free of charge and you are neglecting that Presence. If there is the Conviction ‘except myself nothing is there’, and ‘myself’ is not an egoistic statement, ‘except Selfless Self nothing is there’, you will get exceptional spiritual intoxication. I call it spiritual intoxication. Though you are living in the world, you remain unconcerned with the world. The entire world is projected out of your Presence. To say ‘world’, your Presence is required. In a dream you see sky, space, everything, even god, etc. Although you are acting in the dream, who is watching that dream, who is taking the video-shooting of that dream? After awakening you say “Oh, I’ve seen this thing, that thing, good dream, bad dream”. How was that dream-world projected? Similarly, this world is projected out of your Presence. But Presence does not know ‘I am Presence’, just like sky does not know ‘I am sky’. We say “This is sky”. The five elements do not know ‘I am the five elements, water does not know ‘I am water. Your Presence is beyond that. But we are neglecting all this. So be with you always.
So today, if you want to ask any questions, you can ask questions, not to hesitate. Okay, does anybody have any questions?
Yes, yes.
Q: I’ve been taught that the Vedic understanding of the evolution of consciousness…first we have to understand who we are, the unbounded Awareness, and then the perception over time refines to perceive finer and finer levels of creation until one perceives the Infinite. In all of creation (inaudible) sees that, is no different than that which I am. Is this a sequence that happens over time, or can it happen all at once?
Maharaj: Nothing is happening. This is the Spontaneous Projection of your Ultimate Truth. Nothing has happened, and nothing’s going to happen. You are not the doer, there’s no deed at all. So, not to measure yourself in body-form. So far we are measuring ourselves in body-form, and that is illusion. So many questions are raised, appear upon your Presence. Try to identify that Invisible Presence within you. You are not the body, there’s no shape, there’s no nothing…You’re formless, you’re unborn! How were you prior to beingness? After leaving the body, any question remains? No. What is the value of this knowledge? Knowledge means just to identify oneself in a real sense. We’re identifying ourself in body-form and that is illusion, it’s a simple thing.
There are so many books on spirituality, and so many Masters also. We’re not here to analyze the words of the Masters, the spiritual words. What was the message they gave, that is most important, the conclusion of all spiritual knowledge. This one sentence: except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master. This is the one message given in all spirituality.
To have Conviction, to absorb this knowledge, you have to undergo the basics of meditation. There isn’t any other source. Question, counter-question, analyzation, it’s okay.
Yes?
Q2: Is there any specific way to do meditation?
Maharaj: Meditation just means concentration and involvement. Not sitting like this: ‘Ram, Ram, Ram, Ram…’, not like this. Try to identify who is acting within this body. Just sit, calm and quiet, to see what’s happening. Who is witnessing the thoughts? Who is watching the dream? Who is that? It’s not the body at all. It’s called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, the name given to the Supernatural Power.
Q2: So, meditating…
Maharaj: Meditation means just to identify yourself. Invite the attention of the Invisible Meditator within you that you are Brahman! Except your Self, nothing is there.
Whatever knowledge we’re having is body-based knowledge. This is a food-body, it’s not going to remain constant. There are stages: you’re a child, then grown up as young man, then you become an old man, and some or other day, willingly or unwillingly you have to leave the body! What remains? After leaving the body, what remains? Nothing. So everything came out of nothing and dissolves back into nothing. What remains? How were you prior to beingness? “I don’t know”. After leaving the body? “I don’t know”. ‘I don’t know’ means that in a negative thought, a positive concept, a positive Reality is there. “I’m not in any form, I’m formless, I’m shapeless. My Presence is there, just like sky or space: everywhere”.
You can ask any question. If you’ve got any doubts, ask about the doubts. (Inaudible) Yes?
Q: In the book (Selfless Self), Maharaj, you say “Be how you were prior to beingness”. In the practical world, how do you do that?
Maharaj: Just think intellectually: how were you prior to beingness, and after leaving the body? Is this body Reality? This body is Reality? After some time we have to leave this body, so what is the use of knowledge? Knowledge means just to identify oneself in a real sense. We’re measuring ourselves all the time in body-form. You’re formless, you’re shapeless, it’s fact. The moment the Presence clicked with the body you say ‘I’. So many illusory concepts are wrapped up on us. We’ve accepted these concepts blindly. And for which, again I’m repeating, only the meditation.
Through meditation everything will be clear within you. When I say meditation is the anti-virus software, it means all the viruses will be cleared. And again I’m repeating: nothing is impossible. You need not depend upon anybody else, even me also. Therefore Nisargadatta Maharaj says: “I’m not making you a disciple, I’m making you a Master”, because that Masterly essence is within you. Master is not separate from you. Some confusion is there because of the body-based knowledge. This is a food-body. For which strong devotion is required in the beginning: “I can do it! I know the Reality. I am the Source of this world, the entire world is projected out of me.” This is not an egoistic thought, it’s a fact. If there’s no Presence who will talk about the world, who will talk about the God? And with this all illusory concepts will be dissolved and the six symptoms will appear within you. ‘Shama’, ‘Dama’, means: complete silence, peacefulness, whatever happens, whatever you do, “It’s okay”. Since you are holding the body some things will happen against you also. There will be unpleasant atmospheres, just like clouds are coming, coming and going. You are there and there only.
Yes?
Q: Sometimes in the meditation, I have this fear. I don’t what fear it is, but I have some kind of fear. Why is that?
Maharaj: Because of the pressure of concepts, illusory concepts. Directly or indirectly we’ve accepted the body as our identity. Directly or indirectly we’ve accepted body as our identity, therefore fear is there. Where was that fear prior to beingness? After leaving the body, any fear is there? Is a dead body having any fear? No fear is there.
See, the Spirit would like to survive for a longer time because of the body only. Spirit does not know ‘I am Presence’, and Presence does not know ‘I am Spirit’ or ‘Presence’,just like sky does not know ‘I am sky’.
Yes?
Q: Dear Maharaj, first of all I’d like to show my respect for you, I was coming here a little bit late, so apologies. But I want to say that I no longer have any more questions. I want to thank you for helping me develop the conviction with the identification with Presence.
Maharaj: So, nothing is impossible, I repeat: nothing is impossible for you. Just a lack of courage is there: “how can it happen?”. Siddharameshwar Maharaj says: “You come step forward, and I’ll lift you another step. Put your step ahead, and I’ll lift you another step.” It means: be (move) forward, come. Okay, what has happened, forget it. Now you know the Reality, why not to accept the Reality? Reality is not separate from you.
Q: Sri Ramakant, there’s a seeing that’s very peaceful and there’s a seeing where things lose their substance, but it’s so peaceful, so peaceful. But sometimes underlying that there’s a fear of losing the attachments, the emotional attachments that we have, when people around you are saying “you don’t care about me if you’re not worried about me”, you know? You know, the way love is being taught, and somehow there’s a little part there that’s afraid of losing that attachment. But like you said, Selfless Self feels peace, and it’s seeing is peace. Does it take time to kind of like, move out of that fear where you loosen that old way of seeing things?
Maharaj: What happens is that concepts are taking possession of your body. When there’s no alertness, no awareness, then concepts are taking possession of your body and fear will be there. And therefore meditation and reciting the Mantra, etc., etc.,and meditation are required, because all the time you are reminding yourself. So no fear will be there.
So this is an opportunity to identify yourself. For which meditation is the only source. If you go on approaching so many Masters, reading thousands of books, spiritual books, we are adding something, intellect. Because your Selfless Self is there, nothing is there. God, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, these are names given to that Ultimate, Supernatural Power within you. I’m inviting the attention of the Invisible Listener within you that you are Ultimate Truth, you are Final Truth. You need not go anywhere.
But, some confusion is there because we’ve read so many books, so many concepts were impressed, were engraved upon us. We’ve got to break the circle of all concepts, body-related concepts. Even if you say “I am Brahman”, it’s also concept. You’re beyond that. These are names, words are there, good words. Because we’ve created language, given the meaning of language, each and every word.
And therefore I am insisting, in the beginning stage, one should undergo the meditation. It’s the only source, the base, the foundation. After having Spontaneous Conviction, meditation is also illusion. Why is meditation required? Through meditation you are inviting the attention of the Invisible Meditator within you that you are Ultimate Truth. Through meditation you are inviting the attention of the Invisible Meditator, Anonymous Meditator within you that you are Ultimate Truth, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God. After Conviction you’re not required to go anywhere, everything is within you. You’ve got tremendous power, but we are always depending on somebody else. “Do some something-prayers for me, do something-prayers for me”, “give me some blessing”, “put your hand on my head”, why? Try to absorb the knowledge which you already have.
Anybody have any questions, you can ask it. Be free! Yes, yes, okay, welcome.
Q: Sri Ramakant, after reading Selfless Self my spaces in meditation were longer when the ‘I’ disappeared, they disappeared for longer periods, and…
Maharaj: See, ‘I’ appeared upon your Presence. To say ‘I’ it appeared upon your Presence. If there’s no Presence who says ‘I’? You’re prior to ‘I’. ‘I’ is a word, ‘I’, ‘you’, ‘he’, ‘she’, it is an indication, an identification, local identification, physical identification.
Q: But after I began experiencing so much peace in that, and before my trip I experienced so much resistance to get here and it’s like I made myself come.
Maharaj: The experience is okay, it’s a good experience. But at the last stage, the Ultimate Stage there is no experience no experiencer, no witness no witnesser. Experience appeared upon your Presence, it’s a good thing, not a bad thing. When you come closer and closer to your Selfless Self some good experiences appear: exceptional peacefulness is there, exceptional happiness is there, there is spiritual intoxication without any cause, without any material cause.
Q4: What next?
Maharaj: No next is there. No next is there, nothing is there. Does sky have any nature of ‘earlier’? Think about it. You’re Presence is just like sky or space. Like the five elements, it’s everywhere. Mind, ego, intellect, these concepts appeared upon your Presence. I’m inviting the attention of that Presence through which you are saying “My mind, my ego, my intellect”, all relations, all requirements, needs – who wants all these things? Prior to beingness where is that mind? No ego, no intellect prior to beingness. How were you prior to beingness? You say “I don’t know”. ‘I don’t know’ is the correct answer.
So in various ways, I’m placing before you some words in various way. Try to identify the principle behind that. This is not dry spiritual knowledge, it is the Listener’s Truth. The Listener is Ultimate, it’s the last destination, the last terminal. You’re not required to go any where or do any excercise, not to torture your body. Be simple, be normal, the Absolute is within you.
Not to make any deliberate effort. What you have been told, try to absorb, try to digest it. We’re having so many questions, body-based questions. Directly or indirectly we’re having the conviction: ‘I am somebody else’ – that ‘somebody else’ is supposed to dissolve. You’re everybody, not somebody. Your Presence is everywhere, just like space or sky. You’re not limited to the body. The body is an external cover. You can use your body, just like these clothes: we’re cleaning clothes, we’re taking care of the clothes.
It’s open fact. Your sadhana is in the beginning stage only. No sadhana is required after having Conviction. Sadhana, meditation: it’s okay in the beginning. Just like a small baby wants something artificial, an artificial cart to help him walk because he can’t stand on his feet. If now you are given some artificial (walker) you’ll not need it, you’ll say “I’m grown up”. So likewise you have to convince, you have to have a dialogue within your Selfless Self. Your inner Master is very strong. As a matter of fact, there’s no ‘inner Master’, but for understanding we say ‘inner Master’, through which you are identifying the world, through which you see the world, through which you are watching the dreams and all, through which you are experiencing all the thoughts. That hidden secret will be open through meditation only.
This is a magic box (Maharaj points to his body), this is a magic box, so many things are inside. But all the time we’re neglecting it. We’re having some concept: “Oh, some God is there, He’s administering all the world and all.”, “With His grace I am living on this…” okay. Have some faith within your Selfless Self. Be calm and quiet. Just see what is there! Just glimpses of ‘I’, without any shape or form.
Anybody having any questions? Yes?
Q: In your book you said “Be yourself and everything is okay”. How do you be yourself?
Maharaj: Yes, it’s fact! Because you’ve accepted body-knowledge. Yourself means Selfless Self, through which you are talking just now, you are identifying some concepts. Self is not separate from you. Name is given :’yourself’, ‘myself’, ‘yourself’, these are names given. It is Selfless Self. These are only words. There are so many Masters saying things in different ways. Instead of analyzing the words of all the Masters, what did they want to convey, that is most important. What did they want to convey? After reading so many books, what message were they giving? They’re giving the message: except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master. That’s the gist of spirituality. Remember this: except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master! It is a fact! Be bold, have some courage to accept the Reality! And you’ll find a dramatic change will take place, just like I told you all the six symptoms will appear within you. When you are getting some irritation, some violence, there will be complete silence, complete silence, peacefulness. You’ll have some tolerance also. No attraction of the world – why(be attracted to the world)? This can happen. The only thing you have to do is devote some time for you, not for any Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, or Master. You spend some time, you’re not required to pay a single penny for that. This is free of charge, knowledge is free of charge. But things which you are getting free of charge have no value. If someone is charging five thousand dollars or something you say “Oh, he’s a great Master”.
One person came to me who had a Hatha Yogi Master. His Master charged him five lakhs rupees in foreign currency – why? He cut his ear and something, something. Why is this required? Some different clothes are there, some garlands are there, so many things are there. They are decorating the body. Why are they decorating the body? When you came across this world, did you come with a decorated body? I’m not criticizing, this happens. Because we depend upon somebody else. We’re not trying to know ourself: “Who am I?”, the main question. That question will be solved within you only, because you are the source of this identity. Therefore I define it as ‘Unidentified’, ‘Invisible’, ‘Anonymous’ Identity. There’s no name, you can’t guess. Say I’m talking about something, that Invisible Listener is listening, some flow of thoughts are there. You’re witnessing that thought – who is that? And therefore I told you: be with you. Because your Presence is Ultimate Truth.
Don’t accept illusory thoughts. Thoughts are flowing, why to struggle with the thoughts? We are struggling with the thoughts: “Why this, why this?”. Okay, it’s the nature of the body.
Q: But that’s difficult…
Maharaj: Why difficult? You can identify thoughts. The things which we do not accept, forget it. If dishes are given to you, so many things are there, you say “I don’t want this, I don’t want this, I want this food only”, correct? Not to flow along with the thoughts. This can happen through meditation. Give some time for you. Only reading books, listening from anybody else, no. Listen to your own voice, inner voice. This will happen if we’re calm and quiet.
Who is witnessing the thoughts inside?
Q: But how do you know the inner voice that you sit there and hear, the inner voice, how do you know it’s not from your body though?
Maharaj: The body is only the media. You’re witnessing thoughts, you know? You’re witnessing the dream, you’re watching the dream, you know? Who is watching the dream? You are asleep, the body can’t watch. Who has created the dream world? Have you decided “today I’ll see this dream, tomorrow I’ll see that dream”?. You see the sky, the oceans, so many things, you see the Gods, so many things. Who has created the dream world? Similarly, the Presence clicked with the body and you see the dream-world. The body is not creating any dream. The combination of Presence and the body, just like the combination of the matchbox and the stick: they click each other and you see the fire. Fire is everywhere. Just like the five elements are everywhere. American water is not separate from the Indian water, hm? The sky is different from American sky and Indian sky? Because there are different bodies we see ‘this one’, ‘this one’. Presence is one.
After having this Conviction, all concepts will dissolve. There are so many concepts engraved upon us: ‘there’s a God’, ‘you’re going to die’, ‘last birth’, ‘future birth’, ‘hell’, ‘heaven’, what are these things? Who knows ‘hell’ and ‘heaven’? We don’t about this present birth, why are we talking about an earlier birth? We’re talking about ‘sin’, ‘virtue’ and all these things.
There’s no limitations. Body is having limitation. With these various words we are trying to convince except yourself nothing is there in the world. Who says ‘I’? To say ‘I’ to say ‘you’ some identity is required. For discussion purposes, you have to take the help of some words. Spiritual words. Just to convince that Invisible Identity, which can not be defined in words. So the source of the entire world is within you only, not in the form of body. But because of long association with the body, and so called mind, and ego and intellect. You forgot your identity. Started thinking I am a man or woman. ‘I am knowledge’, ‘I am Brahamn’, ‘I am Atman’, ‘I am Paramatman, God or Master’. All these terminologies started.
As a matter of fact, these terminologies, these terminologies are within the space of time, of I am, from childhood until today. Prior to childhood, when your not knowing yourself, there is no I am, there is no Brahman, there is no Atman, there is no Paramatman,there is no Master, nothing. After leaving this body, there is no experiencer, there is no experience,there is no identity,there is no consciousness, there is no awareness, nothing is there.
Q: I can compare it is like a hole in the ice, I was covered in ice and you break the hole.
Don’t apply your intellect, don’t make deliberate effort, what I told is Ultimate, is your identity, spontaneous identity, invisible identity. I try to explain, in some words, words have no meaning, just to convey, because without words I can’t convey you. So I am taking the help of them, but as a matter of fact, nothing is there, except yourself. It’s open truth. All our discussions, even spiritual discussion, high level discussions, discussions about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, these are only dry discussions. We can go on discussing hours together their is no meaning, out of discussion, what is the conclusion.
Q: No conclusion.
Conclusion is that, except yourself nothing is there. All spiritual books, all the discussion, all this information,with various sources, what they indicate, is except that Unidentified, Spontaneous, Anonymous, Invisible Identity, nothing is there.So be calm and quiet. You do your job, spirituality is not disturbing your routine life. It’s not something, what happens, I am going to die, no. But, at Ultimate stage you are totally fearless, there won’t be any type of tension, there is no question of happiness or unhappiness.All these terminologies, connected with the body form only. When there is conviction ‘I am not body, I was not body, I am not going to remain body,then why should I be bothered about any of this atmosphere?’
Q: To survive.
OK, therefore Siddharameshwar Maharaj rightly says “This is little carrot, so far you can play, you play, otherwise you can eat it.” So, with various words, various terminologies, with various
information,trying to convince, Silent, Invisible, Anonymous, Spontaneous, Listener, everything behind, Your Spontaneous Presence is there. Don’t try to color it in the form of mind, ego, intellect. There is no mind, there is no ego, there is not any intellect.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj April 4, 2017.
So far you’ve read so many books, you know better, and understand what is Ultimate Truth.
Now, what happens? Everybody knows about spirituality, everybody knows spirituality, after
readings so many books and approaching so many Masters. But some change in here, after knowing
the Reality, there should be something change inside.
It happens, after continuous meditation, after having Conviction you will feel some changes
inside. What changes are there? Suppose you are getting irritations from some small matter,
anything goes against your mind, getting irritated, though you’ve got spiritual knowledge, though
you know the reality, in spite of that if anything happen in society or family, if anything happen
against your mind, after having Conviction, that irritation dissolves. After having Conviction
irritation dissolves. Why? Because at that time you are knowing that I Am Not Body. Suppose
somebody allegate something to you, but you are not taking touch of that. Nisargadatta Maharaj
once said “If anyone say me is a very good saint, I’m not any appreciating for me. If they say you
are a bad saint, worst saint, no depression for me, because I am not good not bad.” That reality will
be absorbed within you. So if anybody appreciate you, or any depreciate you, nothing to do. How
that change is, is because you will remain untouched with the body knowledge. Until today, though
you are knowing that “I am somebody else, I am Brahman, Atman, Parmatmam, God, Master” it’s
literal knowledge.
But there is no practical knowledge because of the impression of the five elements,
impression of ego is there, intellect is there, mind is there. So, central point is body-based so all
those concepts are attracted to body-based knowledge. Whereas after having Conviction, after
having Ultimate Truth, after having, say, Ultimate Stage, all these concepts dissolve.
Because I am not body at all. After beingness I am formless. Suppose after death, after
leaving the body anybody abuse you or anybody praise you, all the same. You will not know if they
are praising or they are appreciating. So likewise, though your Presence is within this body, it
remains unconcerned with the body-knowledge. With the result, if anybody appreciate you, if
anybody praise you, if anybody insult you, no concern.
It’s the first thing. That is called Shama, means forgive and forget. It happens spontaneously.
People ask me “Suppose I am listening from so many Masters, I am reading so many books, how
can I understand if I am realized or not?” the main question, “I know everything. I know better than
Brahman Atman Paramatman God. (inaudible). I listened from various sources but whether that
knowledge absorbed within me or not, how can I understand?” For that the answer is given by
spiritual knowledge.
Six things are there. Most important. After having Conviction, after knowing the Reality,
spontaneous changes you will feel inside. Previously, for some matter, some words, you are getting
irritation. The same person abuse you, there is not any irritation. First thing.
Then second thing, tolerance. So much tolerance is there. Because if anything happens,
against, you are not getting irritations, you’re forgiving and forgetting everything. Tolerance is
there. Say, Exceptional Tolerance is there. Patience is there. So now if there’s unpleasant
atmosphere or unpleasant thing you listen from somebody else, something happen in your family,
something happen again, that patience is there, no enemy, nothing is there. Okay, suppose someone
is in pain, somebody died, momentary some grief or sadness is there. But you say “Okay this is
going to happen to me also. Today this man die, tomorrow this body is going to go, there is no
(inaudible).” So that Conviction appears, you’re not getting irritated, there’s no sadness. You can
convince yourself. Thats the second thing.
Third thing is, if anyone is taking something so, there is anxiety to know the Reality.
Suppose somebody is talking something of reality of Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master,
but something is there. You are having to discern, capacity to discern calmly and quietly. It is called
Titiksha.
And then, Uparati means you discard all concern. No attraction. No sex attraction, no money
attraction, no publicity attraction. Your view of the world totally changes. There is no material
attraction, for happiness, for peacefulness, because peacefulness appears spontaneously within you,
without any material cause. That attribute will be absorbed, absorbed within you. Then with the
result you are getting strong Devotion, “Oh!” Then you’ll not be tempted to go anywhere to have
peacefulness. “The Master says I am Brahman, all these qualities are within me , I am peaceful
without any material cause, why to go here and there for peacefulness.” In that case there won’t be
temptation to go anywhere, to any Master, or anywhere. That happens spontaneously because
whatever is required is already within you, so then there won’t be temptation. And then Devotion.
And then Trust, strong trust within you, “Yes! this is Ultimate Truth!” So these changes will
happen, that is a sign of Realization, or Enlightenment. If something lacking then you have to do
something for meditation all these things. So in that case meditation will be spontaneous. You need
not go to sit and meditate the words, it happens spontaneously, in your deep sleep also.
So, though you are holding the body, though you are using the body, you remain
unconcerned with the body. After having these changes, how to live, how to live your life will be
will completely changed. So even though you remain in the society, you live in the society, you
remain unconcerned with the world, unconcerned with all these activities. That’s suppose to happen.
Only listening, meaningless. Approaching masters, meaningless. You’ll feel some changes. Until
that changes, you have to undergo the, strictly meditation procedure.
(?inaudible) some miracle experience happening, “Oh I got Knowledge I am Realized!
Don’t have to go for meditation.” So, this is a kind of pricking of your mind, to distract you from
Reality. Mind, ego, intellect always making effort to distract you from the Reality. External forces
are there, half-knowledge, trying to impress their old concepts.
So not to come across with such element that will distract you from Reality. After knowing
the Reality. Why to go to others to know Brahman, to know spiritual knowledge? Not necessary.
You are to identify yourself. Not to identify Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. You have
to identify Invisible Identifier within you. And It’s Formless.
There is no birth and death, there is no shape, It’s just like a space or sky. That conviction is
supposed to appear. Therefore you have to make those changes inside. Even anything happen
against your mind, against you, anything, you are to keep quiet. Not to pay so much attention to
that. That is first stage. Because of that small small matter we are paying so much attention because
our ego is not allowing us to stay completely. (inaudible?) changes is there. So by meditation you
can control your mind, ego, intellect. They will act according to you. Until today we acting
according to ego, mind, and intellect. That will be stopped. That is the effect of meditation.
Therefore, prime lesson of the spirituality is to undergo the strictly meditation. It will take
some time. In some cases within one month, two month, or six years, or ten years. It depends how
your involvement is there, how your strong faith is there. Here strong faith is most important
because there should not be any dull mind, there should not be any say, change of mind there should
not be wavering mind because, “oh so I get something from this master something from this
master.”
Approach your own Master. Master has shown, nothing except your Selfless Self. Changing
Master is meaningless. You Be Loyal With You, because Your inner Master is a very strong Master.
After knowing this reality you should be loyal with your own Master, through which you are
listening, through which you are identifying this world, through which you are watching this world,
through which you are watching your dreams and all. That’s Ultimate Truth. But because of lack of
confidence, lack of courage, we have some dual mind, to go here and there. How long you go here
and there? Why to go changing so many Masters? Nothing you get. So everything start from you
and everything ends within you. That’s the Ultimate Truth, the Final Truth.
One thing is clear, this is not going to remain constant. This has a time-limit. So what you
are doing for this, it is meaningless, because this is uncertain, body is uncertainty. So who is acting
from this? Because of Presence body is having value. I’m talking about that Presence, therefore you
must have strong conviction to accept the Reality. Without which, not possible. So we are trying to
change yourself, not to go along with the mind, ego, intellect. You can use your mind, ego intellect,
as it is required, but not to depend totally upon mind, ego, intellect, because you are separate from
it, because prior to beingness there is no mind, no ego, no intellect, no master, no spiritual
knowledge.
Why spiritual knowledge is required? What is spiritual knowledge? It’s just information, the
identification, of the searcher, of the listener, of the reader. Beyond that nothing is there. Where is
spiritual knowledge prior to beingness? Nothing was there. After leaving body, what spiritual
knowledge is there? Will that so-called spiritual knowledge help you at the time of leaving the
body? No! It’s Fact. Spiritual knowledge means just to identify yourself, its the words. All these
confusions are there, wavering mind is there. So to discard all concepts, to discard all concerns, to
discard all desires, you have to undergo the strictly meditation. After meditation it will be cleaning
process.
I call it AntiVirus Software. Meditation is the antivirus software. All the viruses will be
dissolved. Entire thing will be completely changed, clean, totally washed out. All the desires and
concepts will be washed out. And then that Spontaneous Happiness will be there. Peacefulness is
there. It is not through material points. It’s the most important thing. So according to the spiritual
lesson, just start that meditation first. With meditation you can identify yourself in a real sense.
So start from today!
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj December 16, 2017.
So in short and sweet, the Principle Of Spirituality, try to Identify YourSelf Real Sense.
You are identifying everybody in the world except your Selfless Self, it’s most important.
Because body is not your identity, body was not your identity, body not going to remain
your identity. What you are accepting, what you are doing through the media of body it is
illusion. So try to know yourSelf, try to identify yourSelf, so that’s the basic. And for which
you are to undergo strictly meditation in the beginning. After having Conviction no need of
meditation also. Meditation required in initial stage, just like learning some language.
(inaudible) reading alphabet and all, mhhh? After hearing master repeating alphabet, now
he need not to go to (inaudible) the alphabet. So likewise meditation is the media through
which you can identify yourSelf. After having Conviction, after having Realization no need
of meditation also. All these requirements, meditation is required, Master is required,
Spiritual Knowledge is required. Why? To know your Selfless Self. We are knowing ourself
in body-form, that is illusion. Basically you are Formless. What you see it is illusion. So you
concentrate Concentrator, Invisible Seer within you. When there is no seer how can you
see the world? To say “this world” to say “God” to say “Brahman” your Presence is
required. That means Entire World Projected Out Of Your Invisible Presence, that you are
unknown to yourself. Try to know yourSelf and for which in the beginning you have to
strictly undergo meditation. So if I go on talking hours together, it is meaningless.
Q: Can I have a question?
Maharaj: Yes, yes.
Q: Ok. When I read the book Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharishi,
sometimes they say, sometimes somebody ask the question, “I want to just go somewhere
in the nature and be alone and quit everything and just meditate.” And they say, “Ok, it’s
good.” And sometimes somebody ask the same question and they say “You can work, you
can keep your family and ….
Maharaj: Yes!
Questioner: … you can just meditate – half an hour everyday. So my understanding is : for
everybody it’s different, everybody has different situation, different path, and I’m
interested what is my, what is good for me. I am now in the situation I can look myself for
unlimited time and just sit and do this finding the Invisible Listener. I can do it, I have the
money, I have the time, I have no responsibilities.
Maharaj: No question of, no question of money (inaudible)
Q: And I want to do it but, …
Maharaj: You must have a strong desire, strong willpower, “Yes I am To Do it!
Q: Yes
Maharaj: Money is not necessary, but “I have to do is, I have to know mySelf in a Real
Sense”. Strong willpower is a must, number one. Second thing, you must have read so
many books, Ramana Maharishi, Nisargadatta Maharaj. Not to analyze their words. It is
(inaudible) nature of the mind, why Nisargadatta says like this, why Ramana Maharishi
say like this? We are analyzing their words, statement. What they want to convey that is
most important. All Masters are right, they want to say for Perfection. But what we are
doing, Nisargadatta Maharaj say like this, what is the meaning of these words? Or the
statements contradictory to the statement of Ramana Maharishi or somebody. But that
analyzation not be there. All the Masters wanted to convey One Principle, That Except
Your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman. That conclusion you have to accept. It’s a
practice of the mind to analyze their words, statement, why Ramana Maharshi, there is no
comparative study. We are not here to debate on somebody’s statement. What they wanted
to convey out of that all statements, that is most important. And the Principle of
Spirituality, Except Your Selfless Self There is no God, No Brahman, No Atman, No
Paramatman, No Master. You are the Principle of this world. If your Presence is not there,
who will talk about the world? So what you see it is illusion, Through Which You See is the
Ultimate Truth. That Conviction supposed to be appear spontaneously within you, until
that time you are to undergo the meditation.
Q: So would your recommendation to me, when you see me, would you say it’s
appropriate or suitable or best for me to do that? That I just drop everything and just focus
on…
Maharaj: You do your duties, do all your responsibilities.
Q: I don’t have any.
Maharaj: What I say, only meditation no I recommended? You do your normal job, your
duties. If you are a family member take care of your family members. While doing all these
things you can Concentrate Concentrator. “Oh I am spiritual man, how can I see my wife,
my father, parent?” Our spirituality is practical. Do your duties, whatever duties is there.
Even if you are alone (inaudible) something will be there. Whatever duties, body-based duties
you are to do it. Suppose you take go to eat something. You are hungry you are
getting hungry or doing something body-based. You can’t avoid it, “oh I am spiritual man I
cannot do”. That is theoretical. Be practical. What I want exactly? I want to Identify
MySelf. It’s fact, even if you are thinking intellectually, body is not your identity at all.
Some or other day, willingly or unwillingly, you are to leave this body. What is the use of
this knowledge? Suppose you read thousands of books, you’ll be a master of words,
spiritual words, not Master Of Your Selfless Self. You are to be Master of your Selfless Self.
“You know God? Yes, I know. I am not man or woman, I am totally formless. Since I am
formless there is no death and birth, no future, no past, no destiny.” It’s Fact. Your
Presence Is Just Like A Space Or Sky. Does sky know anything? Sky does not know
anything. Likewise Your Invisible Presence Is Just Like Sky or Space. That conviction
supposed to be appear spontaneously, then only, Yes So That I…… Everybody want
happiness, fearless life, peaceful life. How it will be? Unless you identify yourSelf you not
have some that peacefulness. So money is not matter. You need not to go to spend a single
penny for spirituality, but this is an opportunity for you. Human body is an opportunity for
you to Identify YourSelf. So there should not be any birth, there are so many concepts, last
birth, future birth, no What Birth? Who knows what (inaudible)? Last past birth or destiny,
future destiny, all these concepts, illusory concepts developed (inaudible). What you see is
heaven and hell, all these concepts. You are to come out from all these concepts. All
concepts supposed to be dissolved. That is the Principle Of Spirituality. (Questioner:Yes)
So be firm. Visit YourSelf. Not today here, tomorrow here, tomorrow here, why? why? You
may visit, but not with expectation “Oh I go some place I will get happiness, if I go this
place, Himalaya is happiness.” You not get happiness. Because so far you are measuring
yourself in body-form. You may go anywhere in the world, you may change thousands of
masters, not helpful to you. Happiness is already within you, which you are ignoring.
Peacefulness already within you, you are ignoring it. Because directly or indirectly you are
having so much attraction of the body, so much faith and trust with the body. So that
concept supposed to be dissolved. Not to kill body. Try to identify. There will be no ego, no
intellects, no mind. Mind, ego, intellects appear upon your Presence. They are veils, they
are veils. We have become victim of our mind, ego, intellects. You can use them, but not to
become victim of these mind, ego, intellects. They are not bad, but they should you not
take excessively. Whatever excess is poison. So Be With You All The Time.
Q: The thing…..can I ask?
Maharaj: Yes, you can ask any question.
Q: The thing which most distract me from looking for the one who is looking, is
women. All the other things like, work, or some, I don’ know, fame, or power, I think I
don’t. But women is difficult for me to pull the attention, when there is beautiful girl the
attention goes there it’s difficult to do the attention inside.
Maharaj: These are the bodies. Presence is neither woman nor male or female. These are
human bodies. What happiness is there? If there is no Presence does this body have any
appearance? If (inaudible) suppose beautiful girl is there, lady is there. If there is no
Presence, dead body. What happiness is there? Because so far we are measuring ourself in
body form therefore we have got attraction of the woman or man, male or female. That,
dissolve. What is woman these are only dead bodies, male and female is the body. But
different parts are there, some parts are different. Who is holding the body? The Holder of
the body is not male or female. So far you are considering ‘I am man’, therefore there is
attraction. You are neither man nor woman, You Are Brahman. That conviction supposed
to be appear then there won’t be any attraction. Attraction is there because all the time we
accepted body as my identity. That body-identity, unless dissolved, you are not able to
know yourself, you will not get happiness. There are source of happiness, what is
happiness? Sex is happiness. Money is happiness, publicity is happiness. These are
temporary things. That supposed to be known. What is there? What happiness is there in
sex? It’s momentary. What money give happiness? At time of leaving the body, all these
sources will be (inaudible) to you? Not at all. Know Your Greatness. Why (inaudible) here
and there? What happiness is there, it’s temporary. You know Castro? Prime Minister
Castro of Cuba. He used to (inaudible number) ladies. You know? (inaudible) very sexual
attraction. (inaudible number of ladies) what happiness he got? After he died. (inaudible).
We’re not thinking. There is instant attraction. Money, okay there is some people with a lot
of money. Are they getting happiness? No. Publicity – there are so many popular people,
are they getting happiness? No. These are not the causes of happiness. Who want
happiness? Body want happiness? If there is no Presence, the dead body can enjoy? Will
the dead body enjoy the lady, or money, or publicity? Think it, you are not thinking. All
replies There. All questions are there and the reply is Within You Only. So think what I
have told just now, read the books, read Selfless Self of course if you want, I’ve got one
copy. (inaudible) If at all you want to read you can read it. After reading all these books you
get some idea, some conclusion, the Principle of Spirituality. Okay today is enough, mmh?
so memorize your memory what I have told you listen. Remember. You’ll get reply from
You!
Sri Ramakant Maharaj
Today’s news. Everybody’s got strong body confidence. Everybody’s having spiritual knowledge. Directly or indirectly we are having strong belief in body, and therefore spiritual knowledge is not absorbing. We say oh, ‘I can understand intellectually’, but that knowledge that is accepted intellectually is not absorbing. Because their is strong faith, strong belief, in the body, and therefore it is not entering inside.
So for which again I am repeating meditation, through meditation the body knowledge will be melted, dissolved. I am insisting meditation all the time, everybody repeating meditation, meditation, because such a strong body knowledge is there, so even if you wanted to escape or dissolve this, it is not dissolved because of strong feeling of body. So that strong faith, that power of body-knowledge is supposed to be dissolved slowly, silently and permanantly. Then you will be free from all concepts.
So many persons are coming here; ‘ok, ok, this is good knowledge, good knowledge I appreciate this knowledge’, but I am telling you, this is not only dry knowledge, try to absorb within you, it is your knowledge. If your listening and reading on the base of body-knowledge, it will not absorb. One thing is certain, some or other day, willingly or unwillingly you have to leave the body, it’s a fact. You can’t escape from this incident. I am not asking you to neglect your body. You must believe, prepare yourself, ‘Yes body is not my identity at all’ We are knowing everything but we are not preparing, at time of leaving the body getting some suffocation or something, a pitiable condition, that should not happen. At that time there should be strong courage, ‘Yes, I am not leaving body, I am not body at all, let the body go’.
Nisargadatta Maharaj used to say “When the body is going just think of passing stool.” You know passing, when your passing stool your not thinking, you just let it go. Suppose your passing stool, at that time you are having any grievances? Your refreshed. So he said like that just like your passing stool. Body is gone away forget it, ‘I am not dead’. So what he wants to say, at the time there should not be any grief or sadness inside. If any ambitions remain, subtle ambitions then another dream may be there. This is an opportunity, always requesting everybody, only listening is not sufficient, changing Master’s is not sufficient. Why are you wanting to change your Master, here and there? People say ‘Oh, I have to go to that Master, this Master, that one’. You are wasting your time, wasting your energy.
Because your not faithful with you. Be faithful with you. Be faithful with you and be faithful with your Master. That is the purpose behind spirituality, so you will always remain concerned with the spiritual knowledge, always remain in touch with the spiritual knowledge. You remember all these things, suppose you go anywhere, you may be there, suppose some doubts come, or some confusion or depression is there, unpleasant atmosphere, you remember when you were at Nashik Ashram, you remember all these things, and that concept will be dissolved.
But people are so much attached with the concepts, I’ve told about torturing, one person says ‘No I caused some bad something’, he’s not leaving his imaginations, not leaving concepts. ‘You say don’t worry, but how can I not worry?’ So you have to believe in your Master, Master says ‘Nothing is my property’ but he says ‘No something happened, I have done something wrong in my previous life, that life, that life’. After coming to me, after coming to any Master, if your not leaving your concepts, what is the use of that spirituality? Master says you have not commited anything wrong, you have not committed any sin, but if you say ‘No, No, I did sin.’, what to do? How can Master help you? My Master says I have not done any sin, I’m not doer, there is no deed, if your not accepting that, your own mind, own concepts will be torturing you, nobody is torturing you, nobody is torturing you, your own concepts are torturing you all the time.
You have done something wrong you are a sinner or something, try to mold into the light of this spiritual knowledge, therefore strong belief in yourself and your Master is required, it’s a closed situation, Master says nothing has happened, you are Ultimate Truth, but your not accepting it. Habbit of the beggars, you have a lot of money even though you are begging on the street, like that. That should not be there. So therefore all these great Master’s, they strongly believe in their own Masters. ‘My Master is final’, if God appears before you, ‘No, my Master is Final’ That reality is supposed to be absorbed. That is the principal of spirituality.
Visiting so many places, visiting so many sacred places, something places, what to do? Where are the sacred places prior to beingness? Talking about gods and godesses, and all the certain stories, and according to their stories your trying to go here and there. Waste of time. This is last destiny, last destination, beyond that nothing is there.
Why is knowledge required? So far body, therefore knowledge is required. Why body is required, why Master is required? If body is not there, why Master is required? Master is trying to identify yourself. You forgot your reality. Why Master is required, because you forgot your reality, forgot your identity. You are posing all the time as a man or women, a being. So beingness is supposed to be dissolved. How are you prior to beingness, after leaving the body? That is your identity. In spite of that, people are not following. Listening, reading, black magic, white magic, this magic, nothing is there. If somebody falls sick ‘Oh, some black magic is there, black power may be there’ where is the black power and white power? There’s no black power, white power. So far as you are measuring yourself in body form, therefore your considering the the black power or white power. No white power, black power nothing is there. But that belief so much sticked with him, he was not leaving that, and for which meditation is required. Meditation is slowly, silently, melting all concepts. You will remain always in touch. Bhausaheb Maharaj was very, had very strong foresight. All the prayers, morning prayers, early morning prayers, morning prayers, evening prayers, because the intention you always keep in touch with you 24 hours.
After leaving the premises, some thoughts may come. So you are to recite the Mantra all the time. Do your duties, do your job, while your doing your duties, job, recite Mantra, so it is always hammering you. What to do? What Master can help you? You have to act it. Master has placed before you delicious dishes, you have to eat it, not define it. So be with you. Only listening is not sufficient, have some courage, have some confidence, develop your confidence, develop you will power, spiritual will power. Like I said there won’t be temptation to go anywhere. God, Master, is not seperate from you. So far as your measuring yourself in body form your unable to identify yourself in a real sense. So be strong, OK.