Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj February 17, 2012.
This is very simple, prior to this consciousness or this awareness of ‘I am’ nothing was there. The moment that spirit clicked with the body we are seeing the gods, goddesses and all this world. So, all these gods, goddesses, everything entire world is your spontaneous reflection, spontaneous projection. Concentrate on your Selfless Self. There is no concentration without meditation.
He says he has no questions only answers.
This is commando training. So, wherever you go, you will be able to answer any questions, which are basically for you. For which the knowledge is to be perfection. Perfect foundation. So, if any question, anybody puts any question before you, you will not shake with that question. You can easily reply to that question. When one foreigner woman asked questions of Nisargadatta Maharaj very heavy questions intellectually, but he is giving that reply very easily without thinking. He has not taken any of the credit, he says “Because of my Master Siddharameshwar Maharaj I am giving the answers.”
He says now the communication between him and you is more important for him than his own meditation.
This is direct approach. Without body, without body.
And for the meditation he needs a body. He describes he has a lot of different states and they change don’t last for long, but for the last five days he is in a state where he is free to accept or reject any thought that comes to him. He doesn’t want to analyze a lot, to apply his mind for this. But he says there is him and there is everything else.
This is a sign of spiritual conviction. Good sign.
He cannot say that he has convinced himself, but it is experienced by itself somewhere inside.
It is nice. So many miraculous experiences you will get from inside. Then you say to yourself ‘Oh what is this?’
He tries to forget his experiences as soon as possible because he is afraid of his own ego, that his ego will try to possess these experiences. To own this experience.
This experience will be dissolved, along with experience and ego will be dissolved automatically. When there is establishment of conviction all these experience, ego, intellect, mind will be dissolved, vanish. Their existence will remain casually.
As a chain as causality conceptual chancing.
As you are going closer and closer inside your Selfless Self all these experiences will be dissolved. Because all experiences, experience, witness of mind, ego, intellect, temptations, feelings, all these are body-based feelings. The moment body knowledge disappears or dissolves, all your experience, temptations or feelings dissolve. Then you become very calm, and calm, and calm inside.
Maharaj, some more tea?
Nighttime I am taking very, very light. One doctor has said stomach is cause of all disease. Similarly, mind is cause of spiritual disease. If you feed properly it is ok, if you give excessive diet, it will give you trouble. Similarly, excessive use of mind, ego and intellect will give you trouble. In our lineage they have simplified this knowledge, very, very thorough. It is practical knowledge, there are no inferences, there is not any logic, there are not any intellectual thoughts, it very practical, it is your knowledge. It is your Reality placed before you. Which you forgot. Have perfection. By various discussions we have conveyed a lot of information. Just to indicate, you are the Supreme of this world. Only thing, you don’t measure yourself in body form.
So, I think there won’t be any questions. Still there are questions? Questions, answers, reply’s, temptations, feelings all are body-based knowledge. It is Reality, you are not body, you are not going to remain body. Some or other day we have to willingly or unwillingly leave this body. Establish this Reality that you are not body. Whatever is happening inside feelings, temptations, ego, intellect pressure of all these elements will be dissolved totally. Conviction of Reality is most important. All books, all information, spiritual information, are indicating, that except yourself nothing is there. Don’t take any literal meaning of this information or this spirituality, what they wanted to convey, that is most important. Because we are having this habit, ‘What is the meaning of this word, what is the meaning of this word, what is the meaning of that word? Why this master says like this? Why that master says like that? All this inquiry is totally illusory inquiry. Because everybody’s experience is a different experience. One’s experience may not be another’s experience. So, don’t tally with why this experience is happening for this person, why this experience is, don’t tally. Don’t compare it. Therefore, meditation is good medicine to establish a conviction of your Reality. Just like I told, to remove thorn from your leg, you have to use another thorn. After removing that thorn, then you are throwing away both the thorns. Spiritual knowledge is like that. After your conviction you get rid of all these things. Therefore, the story of Eklavya is a very unique story. He cut his thumb and gave it, ‘I don’t want it.’ When you are going you deposit your ego, intellect, mind in Nashik Ashram.
You should have a special premises for ego.
Very good bank with us. You will give money but not these three things (ego, Intellect, mind). After having control of mind, ego and intellect, spontaneous control, then your entire life will be so that you won’t find any tension, any temptation, any unhappy incidents. Don’t come across any persons, perhaps he may impress his thoughts, the establishment of Reality may shake. He may create some doubts in your mind and then again you will come down with this original state. Try to avoid association of such people, those that are having illusory concepts.
If my foundation is firm enough, I should not be afraid of someone else’s concepts.
Correct, correct. Perfection, perfect foundation. Where there is not any body- knowledge. There is no body knowledge, so mind, ego, intellect, temptation and so many concepts are related to the body only. You want the experience of Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God also is illusion. Because to say Atman, Paramatman, you have to take ego of the body. Spirit does not have any name. Just we have given the name just to understand the spirit.
OK.
Perfect.
Try to learn to simplify all this Reality. I am placing before you your Ultimate Truth.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj February 16, 2012.
So, what are today’s questions?
Q: He has a question, one question. He doesn’t understand whether his spirit has taken his body consciously or unconsciously.
Spirit is not separate from you.
You are separating spirit and yourself.
OK. He himself has he taken this body consciously or unconsciously?
You don’t make any deliberate effort. It is happening inside.
No differences in body consciousness. Because see prior to consciousness no questions where there.
So, all questions are in awakening stages. Awakening stages. Prior to consciousness there were no questions, no experience of body, no experience of spirit.
So, now you are having this body. Those questions are coming out.
Q: He says he tries to figure out with the experiences of his body.
Don’t make any effort. It is spontaneous.
When you are making some efforts than you are taking some ego. ‘I am somebody else, spirit is somebody else, experience is somebody else, experiencer is somebody else, you are creating confusion.
So, entire, this world is your spontaneous projections.
So, you are not separate from all this. This is just like electricity. Different say, fan is there, light is there, these are projections.
Behind that, your invisible Presence is there.
Not to struggle.
Be as it is. Don’t try to make some deliberate effort. It will happen automatically.
I have given the example of that Eklavya. It is very, very, nice example.
Eklavya, Mahabharat. Disciple of Dronacharya.
Q: I cannot remember his name.
Eklavya, his name is Eklavya.
So, with the help of this Eklavya Master.
His internal Master say, started giving him instructions on how to aim the target.
So, without any efforts, he used to ask the question to the statue whether the aim of the target is correct or not. Out of that inspiration, inner inspiration replies are coming out automatically, ‘Yes, my child. Target it.’
So, here you a Master and you are a disciple also.
Therefore, I am reminding you of this identity.
So, you forgot your essence of Master.
Because impression of body association is very strong. So, it is not convincing you that you are beyond this body knowledge.
Just wait and watch.
When, I told you this. When somebody takes a drop of poison, it acts automatically in the body. You do not have to think what will happen.
Similarly, that Naam Mantra itself is affecting inside without your knowledge.
Q: Maharaj, what is effort? Sometimes I don’t know whether I make effort, or it happens by itself. What is effort?
Effort means seem deliberate act. Taking this tea, I am lifting this, it is effort.
Q: But you do it deliberately.
To enjoy this tea, you have to make some effort.
Without effort you can’t enjoy this tea.
Similarly, meditation is effort. Reciting of the Mantra is effort. After that you enjoy the effect of the effort.
Q: But you say it is not necessary to make effort, and now you say it is necessary to make effort?
It is automatic. It is not a deliberate act.
Q: So, I need not be afraid of efforts.
It happens automatically.
Q: If I want to make effort, I can.
When you are making deliberate effort at that time you are taking ego of body.
Q: If I know that I am taking the ego of body I can make deliberate effort?
I told you. I have given you example. I want to take this tea, enjoy tea. So, I have to pick up this tea, using this, after that I am leaving it. So, that work is over. I am not, whatever is happening or not happening, I am not concerned, just a casual thing. I want to enjoy tea, I have taken tea, I lift it, drink it, then forget it. It is a natural act.
Q: Aspect of volition, will? Personal will.
Will. This is also some concepts. Will, effort, all these words are concepts. They are indicating some meaning. ‘I have got will.’ means desire, strong desire.
But don’t get involved in these various words. Words are just indicating meaning, denote meaning.
Because all words, all spiritual science, indicate that you are ultimate.
Because without your Presence you can’t see the world.
So, see word ‘will’ or say ‘effort’, ‘strong will’ these are the various words indicating all this came out of your spontaneous Presence.
So, maintain silence, be peaceful. Whatever you are doing ok. Take some tea, then I forgot I have taken tea and then doing something breakfast. Then put in effort for breakfast, then taking lunch. So this is all part of the body.
So, what happened yesterday, what lunch I have taken yesterday, what activity, I am not memorizing all this activity, it is spontaneous activity.
So, behind all these activities your spontaneous Presence is there.
Are you counting how many times you have taken a breath, how many times you have to breathe out. Regular activity, how many times you have taken food, how many times you are smoking? These are activities, these are normal activities of the body.
Since you are holding body that mind, ego, intellect is acting regularly.
Because these are body-based elements.
So sometimes you feel happy, sometimes you feel nervous, sometimes you may feel desperate. These are all the actions, reactions, of the body form.
For all these situations you observe it. This time is very sad, some depression time is there. You feel some liberation, so I am very happy. So, all these symptoms you witness.
These are body-based symptoms. These are body-based symptoms.
Because, as you know this body is made by the five elements, plus three gunas. So, ups and downs are bound to be there.
Spiritual science says there is Sattva guna, Rajas guna and Tamas guna. Sattva guna is having devotions and prayers and all of this, these are symptoms. You like to go to masters and pray to God, etc. etc. You have helpful nature to others these are the signs of Sattva guna.
Maharaj. Nisargadatta Maharaj I remember exactly determines Sattva guna as existence itself.
Ya. It is useful for spirituality.
So, Sattva guna you like to have devotion, you like to have prayers to God or Master. Your total involvement, totally peaceful life. So, you are enjoying Sattva guna.
You are getting exceptional peace from inside.
So, disturbance of mind and ego and intellect it will be reduced.
So, you become totally humble and quiet and calm.
You are not hurting anybody else. If anybody abuses you, you are forgiving him, like that.
So, you are not taking any qualities of the worldly things.
Because you have become one with your Master.
Rajas guna it is kind of commercial approach.
Commercial is you like to enjoy, some good foods, entertainment.
You like to have sex, so many attractions are there.
All types and sorts of concepts are coming through and flowing in your mind.
This is Rajas guna.
Tamas guna is fighting nature.
Fight, you have to do something. You have to attack something.
Jealousy is there. So many things. Hatred, jealousy, fighting.
So, out of these three gunas Sattva guna is good for spiritual life.
Ultimate state all these gunas are also illusion.
So, three gunas in Ultimate state, these are illusory concepts.
Because it is body connected.
And as you know you are not body.
When you came across with the body all three gunas, mind, ego, intellect so many things started.
Prior to body experience nothing was there.
After disappearing body experience nothing will be there.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj February 15, 2012.
So, after listening to all these discussions you are supposed to have conviction. Simple conviction. I was not body, I am not body, I am not going to remain body. This body is only media, instrument, so it is not Ultimate Truth.
Because, so many temptations, questions and doubts, these are only body-based knowledge.
So, discussion is also just for convincing your identity.
Because with the use of these various spiritual words, use of this language, we are trying to convince the concentrator or the Invisible Listener already within you that ‘You are not body, You are not going to remain body, you are something else above sky, great personality.’
After having a lot of discussions, you will have conviction that ‘I was not body, I am not going to remain as this body, at present though I am holding this body, I have no relation with this body.’
Because, body is having death and birth.
I am not having death and birth.
But, this is not an intellectual concept.
This is Reality.
You have to convince yourself. That you have to accept the Reality that ‘I am beyond, beyond, everything.’
And this entire world is my spontaneous projections.
So, after knowing all this secret, after knowing the truth, you need not nor required to make a deliberate effort to find out yourself.
So, after knowing this secret you can live happily.
Enjoy life. Because you know this is a dream.
From where the dream came, it is dissolved in the same thing.
Just like you see the dream in sleep, its projected and dissolved within you only.
The sun, moon, god and goddesses, masters these are your reflections.
So, this mysterious knowledge will be open when you investigate your Selfless Self.
At that moment investigator disappears.
No identity will remain.
So, try to know your invisible identity. Take the ego of this body and mind, through which you try to investigate, ‘Who am I?’
Then the reply from inside ‘I Am That.’
Nisargadatta Maharaj, name given I Am That, means, inner reply, spirits reply.
So, when you start to question yourself, ‘Who am I?’ That reply will be ‘I Am That.’
That is inner reply, not external reply from this mouth.
This is totally spontaneous.
Then you will become totally tension free, fearless, oh, happy.
Because at that moment, there is no bondage of your body.
So, any questions?
It’s very, very simple thing. So, outcome of the discussion to know our self, or myself in a real sense. Because I see the world. I see the entire world, I see same moon, same sun, same people. So, Maharaj says ‘First you see yourself, then you see the world.’
To see the world, to utter some words also, to talk etc. Your Presence is required.
If at any moment that Presence disappears who will see the world?
This is a dead body.
Because that Presence is there, spontaneous Presence is there, therefore it has value.
Q: So, it is useful to investigate the process of dying? If somebody dies you see his dead body, and that moment you can understand what happens.
You see I am going to die like this.
Because you do not have any experience of your death or birth.
So, repeating, in your dream you see so many persons are dying. Where have they gone?
So, like that with the help of all this various knowledge you convince yourself.
That is a sign of Enlightenment.
Because I have no more relation with this world or this body.
Because I assume I am this body, I started considering ‘I am a man’, or ‘I am a woman.’
This is only a cover.
Siddharameshwar used to say, ‘This is a dagla’. Dagla means, coat or suit, like this.
In brief, the various discussion, using the various words. We have to convince our self that ‘I am not body’ so if any type of concepts are there, wrapped upon us, we are not to be a victim of these concepts.
Therefore, by these words or by these speeches or discussions you can understand. But, to establish this knowledge, or for perfection, or for conviction, strong conviction; one shall have to undergo certain disciplines such as meditation.
Because already we know ‘I am Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, I am beyond this world, beyond this sky, etc. etc. But, if any single doubt is raised inside, your entire building will collapse.
You are supposed to have a strong foundation of spirituality.
So, no single concept will damage your Reality.
Therefore, taking into consideration the nature of spirit, Nama Mantra is given.
See, that Nama Mantra is at basic stage.
Because, ultimate stage, Nama Mantra also is illusion.
For example, I am giving something. Your name is Elias.
So, when you were a small child your parents have given the name Elias.
You accepted this name Elias.
And you started living with this name only.
So, you are not repeating ‘I am Elias, I am Elias, I am Elias.’
So, in thousands of people anybody says ‘Elias’ you say ‘Oh, I am Elias.’
So, the spirit within you accepted this name, that ‘I am Elias.’
So, considering that sensitiveness, or nature of the spirit, that Nama Mantra is given. The meaning of that Nama Mantra is ‘I Am That, So That I, I Am That’ ‘I Am Brahman, Brahman I Am. After repeating the same thing, it totally changes inside.
Initial stages you have to make effort, deliberate efforts.
Using mind, ego and intellect.
After having conviction, your use of mind, ego intellect, you throw away everything.
You will become one with that Nama Mantra.
That means you can see yourself, my Presence is everywhere.
I am not limited with this body only.
I am just holding the body.
I am nothing to do with the body.
At the same time, I have nothing to do with any concepts.
Ultimate you see that some name, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Masters, this is my name.
These are the names given to identify.
I am beyond that, without saying.
So no concept of death and birth, prarabdha, karma, religions will touch me.
Free bird.
Though I am using this body, I am totally free from this body.
I am using some language just to have say, for living in this world.
So, that type of conviction or Enlightenment established totally, permanently.
They will not become victim of concepts, or anybody’s concepts.
So, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, Master, these are all the concepts.
This is just for convince your Selfless Self.
Just like the one lion convincing the other lion that, ‘You are not a goat, you are a lion.’
So, live like a lion.
Don’t be a coward.
Why to fear death and birth?
So, no death, there is no death, no birth.
All this fear and tension, you are feeling this because of this body only.
Whatever you are doing that spirituality, whatever actions are there, are body only.
Because your identity is beyond body.
What did he say?
Q: I have got nothing to say.
This is the secret of philosophy, spirituality.
So, if we go on talking hours together, years together, no conclusion will be there.
Come to that point.
Simple thing that the moment spirit clicked with the body, you came across with the world.
When the spirit, prior to click with the body, nothing was there.
So, after that click, that body disappears, no experience will remain.
So, some person is coming ‘I read, this book, I read that book, I call this Master, this Master says like this, that Master says like this, this book says, etc.’ My simple question. All this knowledge you are having, will that knowledge at last end, will that knowledge help you at time of leaving the body?
If that knowledge is not helpful when leaving the body, what is the use of that knowledge?
That means it was dry concepts, or dry discussion of philosophy or spirituality.
Your positioning that ego that ‘I am knowledgeable, I have got a lot of knowledge of spirituality.’
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj February 15, 2012.
Spirituality means just to know yourself in a real sense. It is very simple. Because, one thing that is a fact, we are not body. The moment spirit touched with the body, we started living along with the body.
The moment spirit touched with the body, immediately you came across with the mind, ego, intellect, and then all these concepts of the world.
So, what one of those concepts is, that you have taken birth. Because of last karma, you have taken birth. Then you are going to die. Then after death you are going to heaven of hell. Then so many karmas, so many religions, so many principles, thousands of concepts.
And with the effect, we lost our happiness and started living with the flow of thoughts, with the help of mind.
Through mind, ego, intellect and so many concepts, as a result of those concepts, we lose our peace. We are having some tensions and we are totally unhappy, unpleasant atmosphere.
And to have happiness, to have peace, we are trying to find out: Where we will get peace? or Where do we get happiness? Where do we get a tension free life?
To have this tension free life, fearless life, we are trying to find out some concept of God. Somebody tells us there is some god or goddesses, they will help you.
Some persons are trying to go to the various masters and astrological things, so many things they are trying to approach. The intention behind that, the principle behind that. That person needs happiness and peace.
But with some great fortune, or say something, if the person comes across with the real Master. What is a real Master? The Master who knows his identity perfectly, that is called real Master.
There are thousands of masters which are having commercial based, and body-based knowledge.
Therefore, I told you that real Master means the Master who knows himself, the secret of his worth, the secret of his unidentified identity. He only can explain the secret of spirituality.
When such people, or such person, or such devotee, approach to the Master. Master says, “You are not a body, you were not a body, you are not going to remain as a body.”
Because; body is having various stages. You were a child, then you are grown up young man, then you become old man. These are the various stages of the body.
He invites the attention of the Invisible Listener already within the devotee, that the spirit holding your body does not have any type of death or birth.
At the same time there is no past karma, there is no future karma, there is no prarabdha, there is no religion, nothing is there.
So, all this karma, dharma, that prarabdha, last birth, future birth, this is all body related knowledge.
Basically, you were not body, you are not going to remain body. At present you are also not a body. Therefore, no bondage, no, any kind of concept will trouble you.
So, in that case, you are not required to search here and there for happiness. That happiness, peace, tension free life, fearless life within you only.
Because, you forgot your identity. With the association of the body, you started living with the body knowledge and along with ego, intellect, mind, so you are facing all these problems.
Prior to body knowledge, prior to consciousness, you do not know how you were, how you are. You do not know about happiness. What is mind, what is fear, nothing you are knowing.
Therefore, the Master is inviting attention of the Invisible Listener, or you say unidentified, anonymous identity, already existing within you.
So, this unidentified, anonymous, invisible, identity is called: God, Masters, or say some greatness is there.
And the Master convinces that unidentified spirit that except yourself nothing is there.
So, everything behind any type of experience, everything behind any type of experience, your spontaneous Presence is there.
For example, if you feel ‘I am a God, I am Brahman, I am Atman or Paramatman’ to say all these words your spontaneous, anonymous, invisible Presence is needed.
Without which you can’t say a single word.
These are the various words given, we do not know what is God, what is Master, these are the names given. When there is a touch of the spirit with the body all these concepts come into existence.
So, after all these discussions what do we want to achieve?
To think that entire world, all the concepts, including concepts coming through the mind, ego and intellect, all these are illusions.
They are kind of layers, veils, upon you.
So, after having these convictions you will become totally fearless.
All the concepts, that ‘I am man, woman, belong to this religion entire concepts, body related concepts, any concept, dissolves, vanishes.
Therefore, you know yourself in a real sense.
At present, you are knowing with the help of this body, mind, ego and intellect.
Because you are beyond mind, beyond ego, beyond intellect, not even that you are beyond sky.
Then you will ask the question ‘How am I beyond sky?’
Take the example of your dream. In dream you see the sky, you see the sun, moon, river, the seas. From where they came?
You see the entire world in a dream scene.
Not even that, you are acting in that dream as somebody else.
And that dream world, and your acting in that dream, somewhere it is witnessed or photographed.
After awakening you say, ‘I have seen some good dreams or bad dreams.’
So, what has happened to that dream world where you have seen the various gods, you have seen the temples, you have seen the sky, rivers, so many people. Where have they gone?
At that time, you are having deep sleep.
So, who has created this world?
Where does that world disappear?
The world came out of your spontaneous existence, and the world disappears within your existence only.
Therefore, you are not a body. If at all you want to give a name, you are beyond Brahman, beyond Atman, beyond Paramatman, beyond the masters.
Therefore, Nisargadatta Maharaj rightly says, in brief all philosophy, all philosophy, indicating your identity.
All philosophy, the principle of philosophy, the books all the various statements indicate your unidentified identity.
So, he said, Maharaj said ‘Except your Selfless Self, there is no God, there is no Brahman, there is no Atman, there is no Paramatman, there is no Master.’
So, know yourself in a real sense and be calm and quiet.
So, if you go and prolong discussion, hours together years together. You have to find out what is the purpose to have some discussion, after reading the books.
The principle behind it. Everybody needs happiness, everybody needs peace, everybody wants fearless life or tension free life.
Because we are not knowing our self in a real sense, therefore we are trying to find out, investigating everywhere.
So, after investigations you will come to know the source of all this world starts from yourself only.
So, just click ‘I am’ entire world is projected.
Siddharameshwar rightly says ‘Investigate within yourself, then you will come to know that investigator itself is the base of this world’.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj April 3, 2017.
You are running after a mirage. You know mirage? Nothing is there. But we are running from here, spirituality, spirituality… Why? Because we are deceiving our Self. Everything within you but you are not identifying yourself. You are not knowing yourself. So, this is basic idea, not concept. This is basic Realization, basic Knowledge. To identify, we are placing before you the Reality, your Reality. Not reality of Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. These are good words, because you are playing with all these words. Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, I-Am, it’s okay. Concept, not bad concept. What do they indicate? Out of this concept, what do they indicate? They indicate that except your Selfless Self nothing is there. That conviction is supposed to appear and for that conviction everybody is struggling. Everybody, every being is struggling. Because though we know literally, after reading so many books. If you ask the question, there is no peacefulness inside, no happiness inside. Something needs are there, to know something. No peacefulness there. What is there fear? Tension is there. Why this? Because we are not knowing our Self. We know so, so, many things, but we are not knowing our Self. Spirituality is teaching you, try to Identify Yourself. Know yourself in a Real Sense. It is Knowledge. Knowledge means just to Identify, know yourself in Real Sense. We are knowing our self in body-form and that is illusion. Very simple thing. That means not to neglect your body. Not to neglect your responsibilities. Whatever responsibilities you are to carry out. You are employed, you are businessman, family member, take care of them, what is there? And during the process of this life you are to identify yourself. Thoughts are flowing, not to struggle with the thoughts. “Why these bad thoughts are coming? good thoughts are coming?” They are there, it’s the nature of the body. Mind is factory manufacturing thoughts. But because we are struggling, therefore getting irritations. Not to struggle thoughts. It’s okay, thoughts which is useful for your routine you can accept it, otherwise throw it out. Very simple thing. There is total lifestyle will be changed. For which you have got to have some Courage to dissolve all these illusionary concepts.
Is it clear?
Maharaj: It’s very simple language. Very simple. Even if you think logically, even you are thinking intellectually, the Reality is there. This is not your identity at all. Body is not your identity at all. Some or other day willingly or unwillingly we are to leave this. You are not to become a spiritual master. Try to Identify, then next there won’t be any dream like this.
Q: Sorry, “next…”?
Maharaj: So, if you discard all the concepts there won’t be any dream like this. You are to discard all the concepts, including “I Am Brahman”. Brahman also concept. Because you are not knowing prior to beingness whether ‘I am Brahman’ or Atman, Paramatman. These words came after living – after touching the body only. We came across all these words, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. So many words when that Spirit clicked with the body. Prior to beingness you are not knowing any single word because we are not knowing our Self. Because you are Totally Formless. As of today, You Are Formless. This form is not your identity at all.
Q: (inaudible) But I think there is something else. umm?
Maharaj: Don’t, don’t think! Why to think it? This is the Reality. When you are thinking you are taking position ‘I am man or woman, or I am male or female.’
Q: No something inside the form, there is a sense of beingness. It’s just a sense of being.
Maharaj: Who is experiencing sense of beingness?
Q: This is just a sense.
Maharaj: What is that sense? Where is that sense prior to beingness? After leaving body any sense remains?
Q: Somehow there is an experience of living (inaudible). A sense that.
Maharaj: This is imagination.
Q: It’s imagination?
Maharaj: Do you know anything, any memories prior to beingness?
Q: No
Maharaj: Because you are Formless. After leaving body any memory remains?
Q: In formlessness.
Maharaj: You are Formless. All answers are within you. Prior to beingness you are formless, at present you are formless, after leaving body you’ll be formless. There is no any “How I Am?” It is called just like a space or sky. Sky does not know ‘I am sky or space.’ Similarly, Presence within you is not knowing itself as ‘I am Presence.’ It’s Invisible, Anonymous, Unidentified, cannot be defined. You should take from this Ashram something. To discard all the concepts. That’s the purpose behind this, because we are not want any expectation from you. Expecting You should learn something, you should earn something. Be Something, Which You Are Already That.
Because this is an opportunity. Human body is an opportunity to know your Selfless Self, to Identify yourself. Nothing is required for that. No garland is required, no money is required, but you try to Identify. Body is an, say, instrument through which you can Identify Yourself. What is it? Bones are there, blood is there, flesh is there. I was small child now I am old man – is it my identity? Not at all. Some or other day we are to leave this. It’s firewood. But you are having strong faiht with this. Everybody wants to survive longer time. It’s born with a time limit. So, not to waste your time, do your job, do your duties. But during the process of this lifetime, try to identify. What to accept what not to accept, up to you. You rely on yourself. Rely on your Inner Voice. Which is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, which is not separate from you. You need not to go to anywhere to find out the Reality. The Reality starts from you, the Reality ends within you.
You must have strong faith within yourself, which you are lacking. We know everything, but we are not knowing our Self.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj January 30, 2016.
See, one thing is there. This is a human body, in the form of a man or woman. The Presence is in the form of a man or woman. And because of this body we don’t have happiness or peacefulness, even though we’re approaching the Masters, concentrating on ‘I Am’. Even though we know the Reality, there’s no peacefulness. It happens, because attachment with the body is not reducing.
We’re advising meditation, read books, concentrate with bhajans, and to some extent we’re getting happiness. But not totally, because strong attachment with the body is not reducing. That strong concept engraved inside is not erasing. That is the problem. It is not your fault—it happens. But, we need some full concentration, full conviction. Though we know this body is not our identity, we’re not accepting it spontaneously. Though we know ‘this body is not my identity, this body is not going to remain constant’, in spite of that, you’re not accepting the Reality. Because the body impact, the body impressions, are so deep, it is not easily possible to erase them. So, for which you have to undergo the meditation, concentrate, you have to hammer all the time. Though it is illusion, you have to hammer it. And thereafter, I’ll tell you, after having full Conviction, after erasing all memories, your happiness will have no limit. Your peacefulness will have no limit. You’ll remain unconcerned with the thoughts. It’s the thoughtless stage.
Many times, many devotees are asking, “How to concentrate on ‘I am’? I’m concentrating on ‘I am’” What do you mean by, “I’m concentrating on ‘I am’”? — “What is the nature of concentrating on ‘I am’?”—that is a normal question from all devotees. You need not concentrate on ‘I am’. Because, you’re considering, “I’m somebody else, and I’m concentrating on somebody else”. That’s duality, follow? People say, “How to concentrate on ‘I Am’?” Some people say, “I’m concentrating on ‘I Am’ all the time.” Here they’re discriminating, “I am somebody else, and the Concentrator is somebody else.”
That spontaneous feeling of ‘I am’ it itself Reality. There’s no shape, no mind, no ego, no intellects. But the impact of the body is not erasing, and therefore we feel uncomfortable. To be comfortable, we give the Naam Mantra. Why is the Naam Mantra there? So, at the time of reciting the Naam Mantra, that mind is diverted to concentrating on the Naam Mantra. Listen carefully. Why is the Naam Mantra there? Why ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ or Soham Sadhana? Because when you’re concentrating on the Soham Sadhana, at that time, the mind becomes thoughtless. Ego becomes egoless, intellects become intellect less. So, there is no disturbance of the mind, ego, intellects at the time of reciting the Mantra. And for which we are asking you to concentrate on the top of the nose, recite the Mantra, so that it will create a thoughtless atmosphere. Thoughtless atmosphere. There should not be any entry of the intellects. No entry of the mind. No entry of ego. To create this atmosphere, then only can you concentrate on the Concentrator. Therefore, we are asking you to concentrate on the top of the nose, recite the Mantra, so you’re keeping the mind busy.
I’ll give you a small example. There’s a mother who has two or three children. She wants to cook, but she has to take care of the children. She wants to cook something for them, but she can’t do all this together. So, what is she doing? She gives some toys to the children. Separate toys, “You do this thing, you do this thing, you do this thing”. She wants to make those children busy with the toys, and then she can concentrate on the food. So, she’s happy and the children are happy. Similarly, three children are there: mind, ego, intellect. In the presence of the mind, ego, intellect, you can’t concentrate. You can’t devote the time. So, in that case, through the Mantra, we’re giving some toys to them. They’re doing their own work. Likewise, you have to concentrate fully. Then there won’t be any disturbance, just like the children will be busy playing with the toys so they will not disturb you. Similarly, when you’re concentrating on Soham Sadhana or Aham Brahmasmi, at that time your mind remains busy. There won’t be any disturbance of the mind, ego, intellect.
So, in that case, you need not make a deliberate effort. You’re sitting like this (in the jnana mudra posture) and looking at this (at the top of the nose), so your mind will be busy, your ego will be busy, intellect will be busy, and you are also busy. Meditation is there. If you can do this successfully, then the force of mind, ego, and intellects will be reduced. This is exceptional, what I’m talking with you. And thereafter, the forces of mind, ego, intellect will be reduced. Only you alone remain, without any duality. That is the secret of this Mantra. Why is the Mantra there? To keep the mind, ego, intellect busy, to remain thoughtless, to erase all the memories, body-based memories, the Mantra is required.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj March 30, 2017.
Maharaj: If you want to ask any question, you can ask question, be clear. Because, we have here today some J. Krishnamurti foundation, Mooji and all.
Q: I have no real question in that sense because the message is clear. It is the same message everywhere that I hear. But the question that I have… It seems we can only know what we are not, you know? In a sense that, is it possible to identify positively what I am?
Maharaj: The is no positive, no negative. Why to find out “who am I?” I-am also is illusion, to know I-am you have to take ego, “I am somebody else”. Nothing is there. If the body is not there, your body, this is illusion, so why to find out ‘who am I’?
To find out ‘who am I’ you have to take some ego, subtle ego that I am somebody else and finding out ‘who am I?’ There is no I, there is no you, no he, she, it. These are the concept, these are the words, just for discussion purpose, understanding purpose. Therefore, I am insisting not to play with the spiritual words, literal words. ‘I’ supposed to be dissolved totally. There is no ‘I’, there is no ‘it’, these are the concepts – ok, for conversation for daily purpose you can use I, you, he, she, it. But I have told there is no Brahman like that, nothing Brahman, what Brahman is there? It’s a concept. What God is there? Do you know anything God? Have you seen God? Have you seen Brahman? How can you see? Because You are! Without the help of the mirror you can’t see yourself. So, because we have read so many books therefore we have become the victim of this literal knowledge. Knowledge is not separate from you, Brahman is not separate from you. You Are Final Destination. Where everything ends, there You Are. Where everything ends, there You Are. Prior to beingness do you know anything about Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, I, you, he, she, it, God – nothing was known to you. After leaving body what remains? Nothing. After leaving body do you know any Brahman is there? Atman is there? Paramatman, God is there, what?
Q: I don’t know.
Maharaj: Correct. Because You are formless. Your existence in the world is just like space, space or sky. Does sky know I am sky? Has it taken birth? Is it going to die? Nothing. Spiritual science if at all you want to compare, compare yourself just like space or sky. So not to measure yourself in body form. Because You were not body, You are not body, You are not going to remain body. It’s an external cover. Prior to beingness you were unknown to you. After leaving body what knowledge you have got? Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, these are the terms that came along with the body only. All these requirements came along with the body. Who else wants it? Prior to beingness any peacefulness is there? Any fear is there? Who wants peacefulness? Who wants happiness? Who is under tension? Because body is not tolerable.
Q: Is that also a thought, that which one speaks?
Maharaj: No thought, no thought is thoughtless state, no thought is there. Thoughts, concepts, came along with the body only. Where are thoughts prior to beingness? After leaving, after leaving this body any thought is there? Who wants peacefulness? Who wants happiness? Who is fearing? And for what are you fearing? Basically, stop measuring yourself in body-form. Because body is not your identity, body was not your identity, body is not going to remain your identity. Where are thoughts come? You are experiencing thought and, “it’s a good thought, this is bad thoughts”. Thoughts which are tolerable you say it is good thoughts. Thoughts not tolerable you say bad thoughts. The thing which is good for you, it may be bad for others. Thing which is bad for may be good to others. Be Plain. Remove all the concepts. Complete blank. You are to surrender your Selfless Self. There should no be subtle ego that ‘I’ also.”
So, in that case, try to find out within yourself Who Am I? Then the conclusion is you are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master is not separate from you. Why this is necessary? Because we are under the pressure of so many concepts. What is the principal of spirituality? To remove all concepts, even the I-Am. You say Brahman also is a concept. I Am Brahman also concept. Where all concepts dissolve There You Are without any identity. Listen to me. When all concepts including Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, Master, disciple dissolve There You Are. That Spontaneous Conviction supposed to appear. Then you need not to go anywhere. At that stage there won’t be any temptation to go anywhere to find out the Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. It is not separate from you.
Only you must have Courage to accept the Reality. That we are lacking. To have that Courage, to have that Power, to have that Energy, you have to undergo the meditation, it is the only source. Mediation means hammering all the time your Selfless Self that You Are Brahman, You Are Atman, You Are Paramatman. It appears in duality. And out of duality that individuality also disappears. In the beginning you say, “when I am sitting in meditation, I’m somebody doing meditation”, its duality, it’s correct. But we are taking the help of the illusion to remove another illusion. To say ‘I’ is illusion. To say ‘you’ also illusion. To say Brahman also illusion. Entire world is illusion. It’s Fact. Today you may not believe it. It’s fact. Because its beyond one’s belief. Even if you think intellectually, how you were prior to beingness? Your answer is “I don’t know.” After leaving this body, how you will be? “I don’t know.” That “I don’t know” is a perfect answer because you were formless, you are formless, and you are going to remain formless. But there is no concept. Dissolve all concept, you are to remove all this illusory complication. It’s the feeling that the fire is there which is covered with the ash. Through meditation you are removing ash, removing concepts, body-based-concepts. It’s the purpose of spirituality.
Not difficult. Not impossible. No to stress, not to struggle with anything. Go deep and deep and deeper within Your Selfless Self. Then forget this world. Therefore, the purpose is, there should not be any other concept like this. This is last concept. No, I-Am, No You-Are. Nothing is there. No Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, these are the concepts. God also concept. It’s Fact. Because we are giving birth to God and Brahman. This is not intellectual thing. So, for having some Conviction, you must undergo strictly meditation. (inaudible). In the beginning, “Oh what?”. But there is no other source. Yes, I know it. You have to devote some time for You. Because you are traveling from this imbalanced illusionary world. So, we don’t expect there will be another illusionary world hereafter. This is Last Ultimate Truth and Ultimate Truth not separate from You. So only playing with the spiritual words and literal knowledge is meaningless. And dry discussion on spirituality, also meaningless.
You are to go, go deep within You. Go deep and deeper within You. And then, your so-called existence will disappear. There won’t be any experience, no experiencer, no witness, no witnesser, completely complete aloof from the world. And then attachment with the body will be reduced. Though you are using the body for some work or for some performing some duties, but you will remain untouched with the body-based knowledge. Mind, ego, intellect may be there, but you are using sparingly. And then when they require, ok forget it. So then in that case there won’t be any confusion. No temptation. After knowing the Reality, no temptation to go anywhere. If there is temptation to go anywhere that means, something wrong. But you are not knowing yourself. Not knowing your importance.
You’ve got Tremendous Power. You’ve got a lot of importance. Not to underestimate You. Not to measure in body-base. You are beyond that. You Are Final Terminal. Why to go here and there? I’m not restricting your visit, but not with the intention if I go to that master and that place I will get some realization. Nothing. You will be misguided, misguided, misguided. Because there is no separate, Brahman is not there, except Yourself. So why to go for unnecessary distracting from Reality? Because You Are Reality. So be with You all the time. It’s very simple knowledge. Not to come across with any illusionary elements. So many shops are there. Commercial shops. Philosophical shops. Spiritual shops. Why? Now spirituality becomes business. Unfortunately. Not to attract with that spiritual business. I’m not criticizing, its fact.
So, we are pointing out the Invisible Listener within You that You are Ultimate Truth. No miracles. Nothing is there. Have some Strength. Power already within you. Encourage your Power. Entice your Power. Use your Power. So not to develop somebody stepping in “Oh this Brahman, I will show you”. Nobody can show you Brahman. It can’t be showed. How shows this sky? Or American sky? Can it be showed, American sky? Or show Indian sky. Nobody can. This is misleading, misrepresenting. Sky is Everywhere. Likewise, the name of Brahman is given, that is the Individual Principle everywhere in every being. Not only human, every being. This world is full of, Presence, Brahman. But we are unknown to that Reality. Therefore, to know the Reality you are to undergo the meditation, it’s the only source.
The People say “I spent so many years in this place so many…” Why you are unnecessarily wasting your life? Do you job, do your duties. Not to go around like this. Not to leave your family life. People are coming to me, I am saying “go, if you want to get married, get married, no problem”. “Oh, I am spiritual man, how can I can’t get married?” You can get married what is there? It is body requirement, it is body food. If you want to get married. But not “oh, how can I get married?” Thoughts are coming but you are trying to restrict it. And again, they are blowing it. Expose it. So likewise, not to accept unnecessary impressions, concept from. You become judge of your own. Think it. Which is good which is bad for your body, for your spiritual body.
You want to ask any questions for that? So in brief, except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, No Paramatman, No Master. It is very simple. Reality is placed before you. You may accept it, you may not accept it, it’s up to you. Yes. Because This Is Final Truth. Final Ultimate Truth.”
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj April 9, 2017.
Body is not your Identity at all. Prior to body knowledge we are holding, where is the duality? Prior to body knowledge there is no duality. After leaving the body, what duality remains? Because we have accepted body-essence as “I am,” that supposed to be dissolved. You are holding body. You are Holder of The Body, not body. When you are experiencing duality, some subtle ego, mind is there, intellect is there. As a matter of fact, there is no duality at all. Since we are measuring ourself in body-form therefore we feel there is duality, ‘I am somebody else’, that duality. But the Holder of The Body does not have any duality. Just like there’s houses and sky, house and sky. So, this is mandir (temple) sky, ashram sky, yes. Bangalore sky, whatever sky. Sky is not different. Name of the given premise is different. So, these body names are given some different names. Male body, female body. But the existence, Spontaneous Existence within that body is one and the same. If you feel some duality that means that body sense is there, ‘I am somebody.’ That body-sense supposed to be dissolved. When I am measuring myself as body I appear as the duality, there is no duality at all. Of course, when you are doing something else you can use your body. But the Holder of the Body – that Reality supposed to be absorbed. It’s concept. Yes?
Q: So, what is the best way to go beyond this …?
Maharaj: Not to go beyond not to go early. Be As It Is. Not to go anywhere. The sky is going anywhere? Oh, Indian sky wants to go to Germany, German sky want to go America? It’s everywhere. Likewise, your Invisible Presence is everywhere, the bodies are different. We are having different body-form. But after 100 years how your presence is there? These bodies are not going to remain after 100 years. What is that Presence? dissolve vast. Just like if you put a drop of water or some bucket of water in sea, it becomes sea. There isn’t any duality. So, we are measuring ourself in body-form therefore we are experiencing illusion. It’s ok. But within that illusion, within that duality, some Reality is there. Exceptional Presence is there, which cannot be defined. No experience is there, no experiencer is there, no witness, no witnesser, no awakening is there. Presence does not know ‘I am Presence’. So, that Status, that Stage, that Ultimate supposed to be absorbed, for which you are to undergo the meditation. It’s the only source.
Q: So, to absorb this truth totally?
Maharaj: It will absorb spontaneously, automatically. Just you follow meditation for some time. Not to think, what are the consequences after meditation. Consequences will be, you are turning Reality. You are Reality. Listener is Reality. But what happens that mind pricking from backside. Ego is there. Yes?
Q: So, what I must do is just meditate and….
Maharaj: Just meditate on what you were told, just remember it. We are having so on discussion since long. We are recording something, just remember it. After remembering it will change something, dramatic changes will take place.
Q: I would just like to first explain what my concept is. Basically, what I understood is the consciousness is the quality of the food. What I understand it, basically. And because of the consciousness, Absolute is able to understand its presence. That’s what I understand. So, what is, the Absolute to have consciousness the food is essential. But when we are saying Absolute and the food then there is a duality. So, what is first, the Absolute is first, or food is first?
Maharaj: Nothing is first. When you came across the food? Prior to beingness was the Absolute was there? Any food was there?
Q: No
Maharaj: After leaving body what food remains?
Q: No
Maharaj: Any Absolute is there?
Q: Absolute is…
Maharaj: Now you are thinking intellectually, Absolute and then something else. You are Absolute. You are Ultimate Truth. Ultimate Truth not separate from you. This a food-body. The moment that Spirit clicked with body you say ‘I’. To say ‘I’ your Presence is required. If there is no Presence who will talk about the I? You say ‘Absolute is there or food is there?’ It’s an intellectual game, you are playing with the words. There is no Absolute, no any intellect, there is no food also. All these concepts came along with the body. When do you know Absolute? What is Absolute? You are Absolute. Because we are thinking from body- base basis. So, this will be Absolute, this will be Ultimate Truth, this will be food-body. There is no discrimination. Therefore, for understanding the words are mentioned. Absolute not separate from you. Because Absolute is there, therefore food-body is there. Food-body contacted independently. Absolute is Invisible, it cannot be guessed, it cannot be imagined, it’s Spontaneous Existence. Because you are holding body, through intellect, mind, ego you are trying to guess how that Spirit Absolute is there. Prior to beingness you will not know what Absolute is. Not knowing ‘I am’ also. There is no he, she, it, nothing was there. After leaving body what remains? These are the words just to identify yourself.
Spiritual language there are so many words. Brahman is there, Atman is there, Paramatman, God is there, consciousness, awareness is there, thousands of words are there. Instead of defining the words, instead of playing with the words, try to identify What they wanted to convey. Or after reading so many books, this Ultimate Truth, ‘Selfless Self’, ‘I Am That’, Ramana Maharshi, so many. Instead of defining their words, analyzing the words, sentence, what they wanted to convey that is most important. They want to convey that Except Your Selfless Self, there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master. Except Your Selfless Self there is no Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. All these names given to your Spontaneous Existence, Presence. That You Are. Absolute Not Separate from You. Ultimate Truth not separate from You. Because you are measuring yourself in body-from, and through intellect and ego you feel something, ‘this is Absolute, this is food body, this is something’ . There is not any discrimination. That Reality supposed to be absorbed. To absorb this Reality, you must undergo strictly meditation. It’s the first lesson, the foundation. Dry knowledge will not help you. We go on talking on dry knowledge, spiritual knowledge, meaningless. These are just a spiritual entertainment, spiritual massage. Spiritual massage, or spiritual steam bath. Beyond that nothing is there. You are getting relief from that steam bath for some time. This is Permanent. Your Existence, Spontaneous Existence, is Permanent. There is not any limitation.
What the requirement of the human body? What do you want? Why are you approaching so many masters? Why are you reading so many books? Because you are depressed, no happiness is there, no peacefulness is there. Always in fear of death. So, to overcome all these difficulties, concepts, we are trying to find out what is my status in this world? Who Am I? Spiritual science says you are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, how can I identify myself? That is a big question before us. And because all the time we are having body-based knowledge, we have confused ourself. Our own concept confusing ourself. Our own mind rebelling against us. That confusion supposed to vanish, dissolve. How it will be dissolved? All this confusion is body based confusion. Because I am posing myself somebody else, either male or female, and trying to know the Reality.
Not possible. Because basically, You are not body, You were not body, You are not going to remain body, it’s a fact. But despite knowing all these things, we are having some subtle ego, intellectual ego, mind-based ego. We are accepting literally. We are accepting intellectually, we are accepting egoistically. But not accepting Ultimately. “Yes, my Master says I Am Brahman, I Am Brahman!” But the ego is there, “how can I be Brahman? Brahman is something else. God is something else, God is something high-power administering all this world like that.”
Since childhood till today we have developed so many concepts, spiritual concepts, so many concepts are there. You are to vanish, dissolve all the concepts. Because basically, Your Presence is Ultimate Truth. Prior to beingness nothing was there. After leaving body, what remains? No relation is there. My mother, my sister, my father, my brother, my master, my God. Where are all these concepts prior to beingness? All these concepts came along with the body, dissolve with the body. All desires are there, material desires are there, requirements are there, needs are there. We want happiness, we want peacefulness. Who wants happiness? What is peacefulness? Prior to beingness have you any peacefulness? After leaving body what peacefulness you get? Because body-knowledge is not tolerable.
Directly or indirectly we are posing ourself in body-form, my body-form is permanent, that concept engraved upon us all the time. Therefore, the only source spiritual science says, you are to undergo the meditation. And what do you mean by mediation? Meditation means hammering yourself. Some ancient words are given to you. It came to lineage to lineage from Dattatreya. Sanskrit words are given. Through those words, you are to hammer yourself all the time. That meaning of the words, I Am Brahman, Brahman I Am. So, hammering “yes, You Are Brahman, You are Brahman”, just like that. Just like that police officer to a criminal “yes, you are guilty” “no, I am not”, “yes, you are, this is the evidence against you!”, “Ah Yes, So That I!”
Likewise, you are to torture yourself spiritually, You Are Brahman, You Are Brahman. Then That Reality will be Open Explode within you. Yes, So That I! And at that time, you forget the body-knowledge. Even though You are using body You remain separate Individuality. You don’t feel individuality or anything. So, The Exceptional Experience cannot be count in any words. Yes?
Q: When we are saying, like as you say, we are doing all this Naama Mantra, or sadhana, all these things, and a person becomes realized or he gains the knowledge, or he comes to know what his true nature is…
Maharaj: See he is already Realized but we are unaware of the Realization.
Q: Correct. So, what I mean to say, if we compare a realized person and a non-realized person…
Maharaj: There is no such difference of a realized person, not realized person. Indian sky is realized, and American sky is not realized? Because again we are using our intellect, “this is realized person this is not realized person” because you are having the body concept that “I am somebody else, this world is true”. In dream, you see two people, one realized, one not realized. What happens after your awakening? In dream, you see one God, one beggar. After awakening what happened to that God and beggar, beggar gone to hell, God is gone to heaven? So, all these concepts considering body is my identity. That body-identity is supposed to be dissolved, for which you are to undergo again meditation. Mediation is not Ultimate Truth, mind well. It is a process. Through process you are trying to invite attention of Invisible Meditator that You Are Ultimate Truth. It’s hammering.
After having Conviction, after having Spontaneous Conviction, you don’t have to say a mantra also. After, now you reach this Ranjit Ashram. In the beginning, you started, “where is the Ranjit ashram?” You are finding, you are asking any everybody. Now you are here at that address, you know Ranjit ashram, where is this ashram. Likewise, after having Conviction you don’t have to go read even any single book. Not to go to anywhere. No temptation is there. Because you are Ultimate Truth. You are Final Terminal. You can use your body. Not to neglect responsibilities. Do your job, do your duties, there is no restriction. In human body, you are to Identify Yourself. I’m not body, I was not body, I am not going to remain body, I’m not going to remain this body. I Am Formless.
There is No Birth, No Death. I Am Unborn. These are allegations, “you were born, you’re going to die, because of past some bad words or bad deed you take this birth that birth”, all the concepts. Future birth, present life, what is future present life? Some people say you must say the kundalini is there. What kundalini is there? You are to come out from all these illusory concepts. For which meditation, most important, in the beginning.
Just like when you are learning language. You are to undergo the grammar and efforts. Now you don’t have to go to any grammar and efforts. But you must be strong in the beginning to come out of that language. For which you are doing ‘a’, ‘b’, ‘c’, ‘d’. So, after Conviction you need not to go to any ‘abcd’. Meditation also, after strong Conviction that I am not body at all, the meditation is not required. Prior to beingness any meditation was there? After leaving the body, what meditation, what to do? Because we have lost our memories we’re missing our Self. To Identify Ourself, that’s why this process is there. Why to read books? Why to obey Masters? Because you forgot your Identity. To identify ourself in a real sense we have to go through these sources. Now after having Conviction, no need is there. You may be acting just like acting in a drama. In dream, you are acting as a man. There are all sorts of things. You create something wrong thing, bad dream, good dream. You are not planning ‘today I will see this dream, tomorrow I will see that dream’. No. This is body, this is dream. We feel that dream is true dream and measuring ourself ‘oh I did this is bad thing, this good thing.’ We are playing with the words, we are trying to define the words, we are trying to analyze the words. ‘Where is master? He’s realized? He’s not realized? Why this question is there? How you’re concerned whether somebody is realized or not realized. Try to Identify Yourself, whether you are realized or not. Ask question whether I’m realized or not. I’m not considering this or that or anybody. Presence does not have any duality of Presence. Presence is Everywhere. Indian sky, American sky, names are given India, America, China, all the things. Sky is the sky. So, like that you are to teach yourself, you are to become Master of your own. You are architect of your own life. How to act, how to react is up to You. Not to struggle. You are struggling with the mind, struggling with the thoughts ‘oh I am depressed’. What depressed? Because you have become slave of your mind. No depression is there. Was there depression prior to beingness? Prior to beingness any depression is there? Any anger is there? Any peacefulness is there? Nothing. After leaving body what remains? Because body-knowledge is not tolerable because of this we require so many things. So, the gist of the spirituality: Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman. You Are Atman – You Are ParamAtman – You Are God, but You are not getting it!
Q: And then you play, you architect, you play, you create in a sense…
Maharaj: You are architect of your own life, Spiritual life. So, what to accept, what not to accept, is up to you. Suppose somebody is giving something bad thing, ‘no I don’t want this’. Suppose a dish, good dish is there, delicious dish is there, you feel I don’t want this, whatever is required, it’s up to you. Similarly, there are so many thoughts flowing in the mind. The thoughts which are useful for your routine You can use accept it. Therefore, I say that You are architect of your own life. What to accept, what not to accept is up to You. Everybody trying to impress their own concepts.
Q: But there is something inside that tell you what the right thing to do is, no?
Maharaj: For which you are to undergo the meditation.
Q: There is always instruction.
Maharaj: You will get instruction inside under which circumstance how to act, how to react. Because You are Mastermind. You are Central Point of the world. You are not this illusion. Body is not your identity. We are giving more importance to mind, ego, intellect, ‘I am somebody else’. So, that ‘I am somebody’ supposed to be dissolved. It’s very simple. You are nobody, You are everybody, Your Presence is everywhere. Just like sky is everywhere. What sky you see here is the same sky that is everywhere. You are beyond sky. That conviction supposed to be appear within You spontaneously. Literally you are knowing, about which knowledge? Dry knowledge. We are discussing long time and having so many words. Try to absorb this Knowledge. Try to digest this Knowledge. Knowledge which is Reality, your Reality, Listener’s Reality. is not separate from the Identity. Therefore, I define, It as Unidentified, Invisible, Anonymous Identity. It is Unidentified Identity, it cannot be Identified in words. Invisible Identity. Anonymous Identity. It cannot be seen. And for which to absorb this Reality you must undergo strictly meditation, in the beginning! Without meditation, you are not able to Identify Yourself. It’s a process, it’s a beginning. In the beginning, you are to undergo deliberate efforts. Then, not necessary. Everything starts from You, everything end within You. You are not separate from Ultimate Truth, You are Final Truth. But directly or indirectly we are having impressions of the body-knowledge, since childhood until today. And you are not having courage to dissolve it. ‘Yes, yes, yes’. You sign everywhere. Though you are not guilty you set aside and living with a guilty conscience. You are not, nothing. You are not doer, there is no deed.
Q: When we are doing the meditation, we should not read any books or anything?
Maharaj: You can read books, but not to analyze the words. You can read so many books, you can approach Master, but what they want to convey that is most important. Not to depend words. Not to analyze the words or sentence of these Masters. “Why Ramana Maharishi says like this? Why is this like this?”. No. What they want to convey out of various words and various sentence? What is gist or central point of your Reality? Except your selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman. And to accept this Reality you are to undergo meditation. Through meditation all these illusory concepts dissolve. The strong force of your mind, ego, intellect is upon you. Directly or indirectly we have become victim of our own mind and concepts. Ego is there. Subtle ego is against your mind. Ego starts ‘yes!’. You undergo your 10,000? “You have not offered tea?”. Subtle ego is there. When you go to some friend’s house, subtle ego is there expectation ‘oh she should put water or offer something’. Not given, depressed. So, all these expectations supposed to be dissolved. Body-ego supposed to be dissolved. You are having expectation from childhood, you are some boy, father, parent, even Masters also. You are after miracles, ‘oh if I go to that master I will get some miracles’. Nothing, I’m not doing any miracles. Miracles happen from You. This a Box, Miracle Box, Magic Box. Everything is There. But you are unaware of That. You are unaware of that Magical Box. The Spontaneous Existence in your body is Ultimate Truth, Final Truth.
Q: Normally a person expects something, doing all these sadhana’s, I personally feel and that’s why at the end these depressions occur, “if I would do this then I should go there, or I should have this much progress”. But if that does not occur then normally he changes the Master.
Maharaj: What progress is required? There is no I, no you, no he, she, it. Prior to beingness you expect progress will be there? After leaving body what progress is required? You are not in need of the spiritual knowledge after leaving the body. You have read so many masters of spiritual knowledge. Will that knowledge help you at the time of leaving your body? You have met spiritual master, you have read so many books, you are a master of all this spiritual knowledge. Just inquire yourself, question yourself. ‘All this knowledge will help me at the time of leaving the body?’. Answer is there: No! Spiritual knowledge, whatever knowledge you are having is not useful at the time of leaving the body, what is the use of that knowledge? Has this knowledge given courage, spiritual courage to face each and every problem? Because basically You are Unborn. You are posing: I-am-born, my energy is like this, I am going to die, future life, present life, past life, so many concepts are there. With courage, you are to dissolve all concepts. Spiritually is giving courage to accept the Reality. Because you are the Reality, Reality is not separate from You.
Q: So, when we are saying that after the death we are not having any use of this spiritual knowledge…
Maharaj: See death and birth are also concepts. Nobody is having experience of death and birth. Until you see the death, someone die.
Q: The people who follow the spiritual practice…
Maharaj: Why to think about the about the people? You think about yourself! What you see is the Seer’s reflection, Seer’s projection. If there is no Seer how can you see the people?
Q: You Cannot.
Maharaj: If there is no Presence in your body how can you see the people? That means entire world is projected out of Your Presence. If there is no Presence there for a moment, who will talk about the people? Who will talk about the God, master, and everything? That concept is supposed to be dissolved. You are thinking of this people, that people, that people, the realized people or not so, why? You think of yourself. It’s the habit of mind to take the touch of each and everything in the world. The world itself is illusion. Shankara say, “to say ‘I’ it is illusion, to say ‘you’ it is illusion, to say ‘Brahman’ is illusion, entire world is illusion”. Where are the people? Where is the God? Where are the Masters? Hmm? It’s a plain knowledge. Again, I am repeating, for absorbing this Reality you are to undergo the meditation, only thing. Meditation is the only source. Dry discussion will be not helpful for you. Reading thousands of books is meaningless. You are getting some sort of intoxication temporary, painkillers. Everything starts from You, everything ends within You.
Q: Normally we face a certain situation. When we read the book, or when we hear these talks, at that time we feel very good, but after some time then this is vanished.
Maharaj: Because illusion is pricking You, mind is pricking you from backside. What do I mean? See this body is called man, are you forgetting that I am man, or I am woman? You accept this body as a man and you live as man. In dream, also you appear as a man. Likewise, Master says “You are neither man nor woman, You are Brahman.” Why not accept that?
Q: Is the Naama Mantra essential or…?
Maharaj: Of course, Naama Mantra is given to Lineage to Lineage, Sanskrit words through which you are hammering yourself, for which Master is required. Why Master required? Because you forgot your Identity. To regain Your original memories, Master is required.
Q: Meditation means to repeat that Naama mantra or to sit at one place and do meditation?
Maharaj: Mediation you are to repeat, recite the Naama mantra all the time and when you are sitting for meditation. It will give you more effects. But we are insisting to take that Naama Mantra according to breathing, inhaling, it give more effects. But you are to do it. Do it sincerely. In the beginning. Then it is not required. Until you get memories, regain your memory, you are to go through with the meditation. People say, ‘oh I am realized, I’ve got knowledge!’ not sufficient. Literal knowledge, bookish knowledge, it gives temporary relief, not permanent.
Q: Sometimes when I’m sitting to the meditation, I feel that I have lost my body knowledge.
Maharaj: Good.
Q: So, does it mean that…
Maharaj: All these, even that experience supposed to be dissolved. Whatever experience is there, spiritual experience – appeared upon your Presence. At the Ultimate stage, there is no experience, no experiencer. How you were prior to beingness any experience was there?
Q: No
Maharaj: After leaving body any experience is there? That is Ultimate Stage. Even you experience something, even you are experiencing ‘I Am Brahman’, it is still also illusion.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj April 5, 2017.
We are holding the body, measuring our self in body-form, and that is not Reality. The principle behind spirituality is that, different bodies are there, we are measuring our self in body-form, “I am somebody, I am somebody.” Actually, within the body there is Invisible Presence. There is not any shape. No special identity. It is called Unidentified Identity, it’s called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. That You Are. But despite this knowledge you are not accepting the reality, therefore you are wandering here and there to find out Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. Visiting so many masters, meaningless. Visit your own Master.
What Jnaneshwar, and all the saintly people say, “You are the center of the world. If there is no Presence who will talk about the world?” That means entire world projected out of your Presence. Presence is not different with this body, it’s everywhere in every being. Lord Krishna said in the Gita “My Presence is Everywhere.” That Conviction is supposed to appear for which you are struggling. Why you not getting any happiness, no peacefulness, happiness. Always tension is there, fear is there, because we are not identifying our self in a real sense. We are identifying, since childhood till today as a man or woman, and trying to know our self with the body form, that is illusion. That illusion is supposed to be dissolved.
Then though you are knowing literally I am Brahman, how can that reality be absorbed within us? For which spiritual science says, only you are to undergo the meditation. And what is the meditation? Sitting like this? Reciting the mantra? Not that. Your Total Involvement is there. Total Touch with Selfless Self. “Yes, my Master says you are Brahman!” Then slowly, silently, and permanently all body-effect will be dissolved.
At present, we were posing ourselves as forms, human form, so all concepts related to the body-form will be dissolved through meditation, and that meditation will be spontaneous from you. Naam Mantra that is given by Master, that will recite automatically without your knowledge. And at that time, at the Ultimate Stage you forget all this identity. Though you are holding body, doing all these jobs, you remain unconcerned with all these activities. Exceptional Happiness, Peacefulness is there.
Don’t have to go to any material cause to cause happiness. For which you are doing all this spirituality, and so on. Its indicating, inviting the attention of the Listener, that except your Selfless Self there is no God, No Brahman, no Atman.
But we are taking very casually, “oh okay, okay”. You are to be serious about knowing yourself. Because human body is an opportunity. Though we are holding the body we are to Identify Yourself in a Real Sense. If you take casually then again you may see such type of dream. So, this is the last dream. There should not be another dream. Because we become victim of our own concepts, so all body-based concepts supposed to be dissolved. That is the purpose behind spirituality.
Everybody coming here, taking Mantra, listening, then no good. Because of lack of faith, lack of confidence again going here and there. You should be stopped somewhere. Because everything is within you. I repeatedly say except you Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman. Why to go here and there? Why is there pressure to go here and there? Because you are posing yourself in body-form. It’s a Fact. Even if you think intellectually. Body is not your identity prior to beingness. After leaving body, what happened to body? So, your Presence is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. That will be accepted, that Conviction is supposed to appear spontaneously.
And for which, again you are to repeat, recite mantra, devote some time for you. Only discussion, dry discussion on spirituality, meaningless. Be practical, do your job, do your duties. Not to neglect your responsibilities. I’m asking everybody, I told everybody, don’t neglect, spirituality is not separate from you. Some people want to become sanyasi What is sanyasi? Wearing all these necklaces, neglecting all these responsibilities, not sanyasi. You are to throw out all concepts, body-based concepts. Try to find your Real Self. It is not difficult at all. But we are not paying so much attention for our self. Still we’re having some mind is working inside. Intellect is working inside. Ego is working inside. Directly or indirectly we have become the victim of our own mind, ego, intellect. Mind is very tricky. Manufacturing so many thoughts. You are accepting that thoughts and going along with the thoughts. It should be stopped. Okay, having of thoughts is nature of the body because the body belongs to 5 elements. But your identity is Exceptional Identity which is not limited to the body, through which the entire world is projected. If there is no awakening in the morning who will talk about the world and God? Try to identify yourself in a Real Sense. It’s the principle of spirituality.
There are so many words, so many languages, so many things are there. But within all this knowledge where do I stand? That is the question. Who am I? That is the question. After trying to find out Who Am I? That I-am also disappear. So, this is the purpose of spirituality. Jnaneshwar says “I’m going down, earlier to earlier, where there nothing was.” Through which, speech, through which you’re talking, language, words, through which words are appearing. It’s called- 4 languages are there. So, it comes from this body. “Para, Pashyanti, Madhyama, Vaikhari”)—Para means the thoughts, subtle thoughts are there. Pashyanti you can experience the thoughts. Madhyama coming from here (heart). Vaikhari come from mouth, instantly. First thoughts are appearing, you don’t know and then second stage, you experience the thoughts, then it comes to the neck, then it comes out. This is spiritual process, not to pay so much attention. That means, through which you are talking, through which you are listening, that Invisible Presence is called Brahman.
So, when you are trying to identify the Brahman, the identifier disappears. Nothing remains. That You Are. Where Everything Ends There, You Are. That Conviction is supposed to appear, for which you are to undergo strictly meditation. It’s the only source. Meditation is not sitting all the time, 2 or 3 hours, but you are to – complete involvement is there. Complete Devotion is there. After being here, you may be anywhere in the world, Complete Devotion, “Yes, my master says I am Brahman, I am Brahman”. No other thoughts. Like that, Conviction is required. So, nothing doing here. Not to do anything. Because there are not any expenses, not any restrictions, not any exercise, just to identify yourself then you will stay firm with the Perfection of the Identity. It’s the purpose of spirituality.
So, if I go on talking hours together, it will be meaningless. It’s a very simple principle.
Entire world is projected out of your Invisible Presence. That You Are. It’s called Brahman. But, you can use this body. You are holder of the body. Body is not your identity at all. That Conviction is supposed to be appear. So Be with You All the Time, recite mantra, what is given to you by Master. It’s one and the same thing. Meditation means you may utter any words which is given by Master, but meditation is most important. Through which you can be very, very close with You. Listener within.
In that lecture, he says – Amrut means nectar – after taking nectar, how it reflects, in our body, spiritual body. Nectar means after having the Knowledge through Spiritual Master, and it absorbs, how it reflects? Through Masters you have got Knowledge that means you are Ultimate Truth. That is called Nectar. After taking, after consuming the Nectar, how that spiritual body reflects? It’s a question. And I have given the symptoms of the Sadhu, Sannyasi, Saint. You become one with the Ultimate. There is no separation. Though you are holding body you are, he is one with himself. Himself, those are the words. But there is no special identity. Swarup, it is called Swarup, that means Selfless Self, there is nothing separation. Just like sky. Sky is everywhere. Sky does not have any parts. Indian sky, Chinese sky, Sky is Sky, Everywhere, like that, Presence is Everywhere. But it does not depend upon the body. That Conviction is supposed to appear, for which you are to undergo meditation, it’s the only source to identify yourself.
And that through Master, what the Master has told you, you must accept it. Master has told you that except your Selfless Self there is no God. It’s your Reality. So why to go here and there to find out God and Brahman. It’s not difficult to find out Brahman and God. Brahman is not some material matter. Brahman is formless Ultimate Truth which you are holding, you are having. Except your Self there is no Ultimate Truth. That Conviction is supposed to appear it’s the purpose of spirituality. So, be strictly with meditation in the beginning and then after having meditation that Knowledge will be absorbed spontaneously within you. Then you need not make any special efforts. Your purpose of spirituality is just to identify yourself in a Real Sense. We identify our self as this body-form, but it is not true. It is illusion. It’s the only thing.
Yes? Okay! So Be with You. This is the purpose, this is direct knowledge. Not to do, nothing you have to do. Because you’re not doer, there’s no deed. How you were prior to beingness, do you know anything about past birth, future birth? Nothing. In between? Any seen? No, nothing is there. No present, no past, no future, nothing is there. To know nothing, you are to do something. That’s the Meditation. That will clear from you only, because Source of the spirituality is within you. We are finding here and there.
Any question for you? Very simple thing. Very simple thing. Became complicated by so many sources. Very simple thing. Entire source of this world starts from you only. The moment Spirit clicked with the body you see the world. Prior to awakening we are not knowing what the world is. We’re not knowing any Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, Lord Krishna, Lord Something. Nothing Knowing. Prior to beingness do you know any Shiva, Shankara, or some Krishna or Brahma, nothing was there. All this information appeared when the Spirit clicked with the body. We are unknown to our self. After leaving body what happens? What happened to your Lord Krishna, Lord Rama, and Lord Shiva. I am not criticizing it, but all these detailed devotees of Brahman came along with your awakening. If awakening disappear, if Presence disappear, who knows what is Brahman, what is Atman, what is Paramatman? So, all answers are within you. So, after going deep and deep in your Selfless Self, reality will be merged. Then knowledge, difficult knowledge complicated knowledge will come out. All questions will be solved within you.
So now the ball is in your court. How to act, how to live, up to you. Despite that if you have temptation to go here and there, what to do? It’s direct knowledge. OK. Keep in mind: be practical we are teaching practical spirituality.
Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj July 29, 2017.
Devotee: Maharaj sometimes you use the expression “Glimpses Of I”.
Maharaj: Yes
Devotee : What do you mean by that?
Maharaj: Just, just ‘I’, Just ‘I’, Just Feeling, Just Feeling ‘I’. Glimpses means Just Feeling, That Just Feeling, there is no specific identity, no form. I am giving an example: early morning you are getting up, that particular moment, even though you are holding the body, at that time, just ‘I’, just feeling of, it is called Glimpses of I. Glimpses Of means just feeling, there is no any identity, no man, woman, no… just ‘I’. Because you can’t have any specific words. Therefore the ‘Glimpses Of I’ means, just the appropriate word, there is not any form. There is not any gender, It’s an Exceptional Peaceful Feeling.
When you are – suppose, in deep sleep. When you are awakening early morning. The first moment, the first moment, you feel that Just I. There is no any feeling of the world, nothing is there. Because you are in deep sleep, That Exceptional State was there. If you are to compare it, it is just like a Samadhi. Samadhi there is no any awareness, nothing is there, Just I. It Is Glimpses of I. Just for understanding. Because at that particular stage there is no any gender, no form, nothing is there. And you see what is the body. Just we are feeling ‘I’. This body just feeling ‘I’, in the morning, and then you will say that ‘I am somebody else’, man or woman or all these feelings start, again and again, all memories started. But prior to that, just in the early morning when you are waking up, at that time you feel just ‘I’. But that is also, because Ultimate Stage There Is No Experience, No Experiencer. Because we are holding body, therefore we are feeling I, you, he, she, it, what- so-have-you. So many things you are knowing. But as a matter of fact, your Presence or Unidentified Identity is Unknown. Knowledge came afterwards. If there is no body how can you identify knowledge? No Knowledge Is There, No Brahman, No Atman, No Paramatman, No Master, Nothing Is There.
Even if you imagine through intellectually, prior to beingness, what experience you are having? Nothing. Do you know anything? Whether you’re a man or woman, or whether-what type of forms are there? Prior to beingness, Totally Formless. In the moment that Presence touched with the body, you started out saying ‘I’. And that ‘I’ taking form that, either a man or woman or any animal, any being. But that Beingness, it’s colored with some form. It is not permanent. So far, our body is there, you feel Beingness. The moment that body disappears, or in other words, death, so no experience is there. Nobody is having experience of the death or birth. We say, ‘you die, you have taken birth.’ But that particular person is not knowing whether ‘I have died or whether have taken birth’. Nobody knows about earlier birth or the future birth, it is just imagination. Nobody knows whether you see the God that is the God. All identification of God appears along with this body only. Prior to body, body knowledge Nothing Was known. Your Master Is Not Known, ‘I Am’ Also Is Not Known. Nothing Was Known. That means that Everything Came Out of Nothing, Everything Dissolve Within Nothing. That Nothing Is Supposed to Be Identified. Through various words I Am Trying to Invite Attention of The Invisible Listener Within You That Except Your Selfless Self Nothing Is There. Those Bodies Are Different, The Spirit, The Listener, Invisible Listener, Is One and The Same. For which there is not any form, it’s totally formless. But all the time we are measuring our self in body-form, and we take the knowledge, or accept the knowledge through body-form only. The Body-Form Is Not Your Identity at All. That Conviction is supposed to be appear spontaneously, for which you are to ask for meditation.
Meditation is the only source to identify. It is creating some atmosphere. Meditation, Bhajan, Master…these are, all these concepts. But it is required to identify ourself. Source are there, these are sources to identify. And after identifying yourself, that mean conviction will appear ‘I am not body at all, I was not body at all. There is no birth and death for me.’, these are also concept. So, ‘I am not doer, there is no deed.’ There is no past no future. No destiny. Nothing is there.
So, all concepts will be dissolved totally, collapse, suddenly, all will disappear, discarded. So, no concept is there. Even ‘I Am Brahman’ also concept. ‘I Am God’ also concept. Because, it’s a good concept. (laughter) It’s giving encouragement. Tomorrow you feel ‘I Am a Master’. It’s a good concept. But you are neither Master nor God nor…something else. You Are Beyond That. Sky does not know ‘I am sky, I am Indian sky, Chinese sky, or American sky. Sky does not know, if you are saying ‘that is America, and this is America sky, Indian sky. Is there any difference in the American sky, Indian sky? Not at all. We are experiencing this body, that body, that body. So, that means, the Presence within all the bodies, in all beings is one and the same.
Therefore, in Bhagavad Gita, it says “My Presence Is Everywhere, It Is Formless.” Just like say, electricity everywhere. The fan is there, this is there. All these instruments working through electricity. But yet, it is not visible. It’s a Power it’s an Energy, Invisible Energy. Similarly, the Speaker from this body and the Listener from that body, One and The Same. There is, energy is there. Without energy, I can’t utter any words, you can’t be listening to anything. So, that Energy is working, that Energy is given name Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, That You Are. It is very simple.
That Conviction supposed to appear spontaneously, and for which you are always struggling. Because there are so many concepts impressed upon us. “You are going to die, next birth will be there, past birth you’ve done something wrong, and then hell are there heavens are there, a lot of concepts are there. You are to discard all the concepts, for which the discipline of meditation is there.
It is very easy, it is very difficult. Because you must have Strong Faith Within You, Strong Faith in Your Master. If My Master says, ‘I am Brahman’, I am Brahman. Then in that case, not to come across with so many Masters. It is a mind habit to go to this place, that place, that place. Unnecessarily you are wasting your time, and it is distracting from the Reality. Because Reality is Not Separate from You. In spite of that, there is temptation, ‘oh I will go to that master, I will go and see that master, this master. Nobody seeing any master, nobody visiting any master, you are Master, Master is not separate from you. But mind is tempting, creating confusion within you. Stop this confusion. Because your mind is wavering. It is pricking from backside, trying to divert you from the Reality. So be alert, be cautious. And then try to Identify Yourself. Because Except Your Selfless Self Nothing Is There.
Ok any question for you? (no questions)
Take it seriously, you do your job, do your duties. But take it seriously because, body, human body, is an opportunity for you. If you neglect it, if you take lightly, so you can’t say what body, any form will be there… So now after accepting the Reality no form will be appear for you. So How You Are Prior To Beingness That You Remain. But if you rely on concept ‘oh my last birth future birth, this birth, that birth, so all concepts again create another concept, another concept another concept, concept, multiple concepts will appear. Not to feel guilty conscience, ‘oh I am doing something wrong.’ You Are Not Doing Anything, in dream you are killing so many person, and after, ‘oh it’s a bad dream’? mm? You are not taking ego ‘I done something wrong’. If you do something, good thing in the dream, so actually, you are not taking ego ‘I have done some good thing or bad thing’ These are dreams. Similarly, this is a dream. So not to take ego.
That means there should not be all freedom “oh it’s a dream so I can do anything.’ No. Some limitation is required. It is good just for understanding. Because anything excessive will be poison, so your actions will be limited actions. Control yourself. Control is most important. After knowing the Reality, you are to control yourself. Otherwise you’ll say, ‘oh Master has given me all freedom, so I can be acting like anything’. It should not be there. It creates problem for you. So, that means human body is very, a very, very important body through which you can Identify Yourself in a Real Sense. Otherwise you have to again see another dream, another dream, another dream. How long you are going to stay see that dream that dream? It is called rebirth, rebirth. This should be last dream there should not be any other more dreams. That you have to convince yourself. Nothing to do, there is no any restriction no bondage, no orders, nothing is there, no condition, no.
The moment you Identify Yourself, or you have Conviction, Be Calm and Quiet. Be humble, Be Normal. Be Simple. If anybody appreciate you, there is no any something encouragement or if people don’t appreciate you, no depression is there. So, like that, because you are unconcerned with the world. You have to say, ‘oh this is very good sky’? Sky doesn’t know. Or you say, ‘this is a bad sky’? No effect on the sky. Similarly, you are subtler than sky, thinner than sky. If anybody appreciate you, yes, it’s ok. If they say you are good saint… Once Nisargadatta Maharaj said “If anybody says me I am a good saint, I’m no any appreciation or encouragement. If they say I am a bad saint, or foolish saint, no depression is there. It’s one and the same for me. Good and bad are one and the same for me”. Good and bad is concept impressed by somebody else, from somebody’s thought. Not to become victim of somebody’s thought. Nisargadatta Maharaj said “Not too came across with such elements that will distract you from the Reality.” So, have caution. There Is Nothing to Know That You Are to Know It. No Knowledge Is Knowledge. Knowledge also illusion, Brahman also illusion, entire thing is illusion. Shankaracharya said, “Entire world is illusion, to say ‘I’ it is illusion, to say ‘you’ it is illusion, to say ‘Brahman’ it is illusion, entire world is an illusion”. No needs, no requirements, all these things are body-based relation. Just to try to Identify. Same thing. I’m repeating same thing again and again, just to Impress Reality. You Are Reality. You Are Ultimate Truth.
Ok. Short and sweet.