Sri Ramakant Maharaj a recorded discussion from Ranjit Ashram in Nashik of Satsang with Sri Ramakant Maharaj November 28, 2017.
M: See, it’s very simple. In the beginning you are to undergo the exercise of spirituality. We’re asking for meditation, do bhajan, and all these things. All these exercises are required, spiritual exercises are required, in the beginning, because what happened is we have forgotten our identity. We’re posing our self in human form. We’ve accepted “Human form is my identity”. It’s not your identity at all. To discard all this body- based identity, body-based concept, to discard all body-based identity and body-based concept you, have to undergo some spiritual exercise. Like meditation, reciting mantra, bhajan, placing garlands on Masters, all these things are required. Because, as I have told, since childhood until today, we’ve accepted so many concepts and we are living within their vicious circle. We have to dissolve these, they are supposed to be dissolved, we have to discard all these concepts. As you know better, body identity is not going to remain constant. It is on a time limit. So who is acting from the body? Who is listening from the body? Who is watching a dream from the body? Who is experiencing all this in the body? So that invisible experiencer, invisible presence within your body, is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. Why is it necessary to know all these things? Because since childhood until today hundreds of thousands of concepts have wrapped upon us. And then we are living within these concepts. Our total lifestyle is under the pressure of all these concepts. Our total lifestyle is under the pressure of mind, ego, intellect. There is no mind, ego, intellect prior to beingness. They are not going to remain after leaving body. The number one thing is that body is not your identity, body was not your identity, body is not going to remain your identity. That conviction is supposed to appear, then there won’t be any fear and no requirement of peacefulness, there will be spontaneous peacefulness. Now, body knowledge is not tolerable. Therefore we need some peacefulness, happiness, tension free life, fearless life, etc. etc. Prior to beingness, these requirements are not there. After leaving body, no requirements are there. All concepts of God, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, appear in this body presence. Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, are names given to the Ultimate Truth That you are. You are not accepting it. There is still something in your mind saying, “God may be somewhere in the temple”. Wandering here and there searching for God, searching for so many Masters. “This Master has given me knowledge”. No Master is giving knowledge, they are placing before you your reality. Knowledge means nothing, just to identify your Self in a real sense. Beyond that knowledge does not have any identity. So, no knowledge is knowledge because prior to beingness, there was no knowledge. After leaving the body, what knowledge remains? Knowledge means: in human form you have to identify your Self. Where do you stand after listening to all these things after reading and reciting Mantra? The purpose of Mantra is just to hammer your Self that I am not body, I was not body, and to dissolve all body-based concepts Mantra is there. And through Mantra, after reciting Mantra, slowly, silently, permanently, all concepts will be dissolved. Then you’ll feel some exceptional reality within you. You’ll feel some exceptional happiness within you. Happiness and peacefulness is not separate from you. Happiness is there, but it is body-based happiness therefore there is no stability. Body-based happiness body-based peacefulness is having some material causes. So, here without material causes happiness is there. What is happiness? Something which is tolerable is happiness, things which are intolerable means unhappiness. Every person, every individual is having different concepts of happiness. So, forget about it. Not to become victim of your mind ego intellect, because throughout our life mind is playing a very big part. Always we are accepting something through mind. So, control your mind, mind is a very tricky mind. It is a naughty mind. Hmm? It creates problems. So far you are not aware of this mind, ego, intellect. You are following all the instructions of the mind. Now you have to dictate terms to the mind. Mind is not your owner, you are Master, you are providing energy to mind. So, mind, ego, intellect is not having any specific identity. These are the functional organs from the body. So, not to give so much importance to mind, ego, intellect. So, the purpose behind spirituality is very, very clear. Within this body form, you have to identify your Self. Where do I stand? Who is it that says “I”? Who am I? If I am not body who am I? This is the main question before us. Spiritual science says you are Ultimate Truth you are Final Truth. You are Brahman, you are Atman, you are Paramatman, you are God, you are Master. Master is not separate from you. But how long are you going to remain in the body concept. So, for which, you are to hammer all the time. We are giving Mantra, Soham Sadhana, it has come from lineage to lineage, from Dattatreya. It is having some exceptional power, energy. Through that Mantra, some vibration is taking place inside. And then entire reality will be open within you. You need not go to anywhere or accept any blessing from anybody else. Accept your own blessing. Hmm? So, any dry discussion, dry knowledge will not help. There should not be wavering mind. Hmm? After knowing the reality, be stable, be loyal, be faithful with you and your Master. We are always inviting attention of the invisible listener within you. Except your Selfless Self, there is no God, no Brahman, Atman. You have to accept it, it is the reality. But you are not accepting, therefore you are having temptation to go to this Master, that Master, that Master. Nothing is going to happen. By changing Masters, nothing is going to happen. Approach your own Master. Master is not separate from you. Master is Ultimate Truth. Bodies are different Presence is one. The Presence within your body and the Presence within the speaker’s body are one and the same. Try to convince your Self. Try to understand. What is the reality? Then the entire reality will be open with you. Beyond that nothing is there. It is very simple… Where are the Veda’s prior to beingness? See, there are so many sciences: spiritual sciences are there, thousands of spiritual books are there. What do they indicate? They indicate: Except your Selfless Self nothing is there. Instead of going through theory, live practically, practicality is most important. Hmm? You need not have any exercise. No rituals are there. Just identify, for which you have to undergo strictly meditation, meditation is the very, very base, it is the foundation. At the advanced stage, meditation is also illusion but at the beginning, you are to undergo meditation, don’t ignore it. Devote some time for you. Don’t neglect your family, I’m repeatedly saying don’t neglect your family, don’t neglect your body-based responsibilities. But, at the same time, try to concentrate. This body form is an opportunity for you with which to identify your Self. After identification, there won’t be any concept of birth and death because you’re unborn, you’re formless. It’s fact. But, you are not accepting, still there are some impressions, “I will die”, “Because of past birth something happened”, “Future birth”, “Past dream future dream”, all these are concepts. So, not to be a victim of all these illusionary concepts. No birth, no death, nothing is there because everything came out of nothing, everything dissolves within nothing. Not even that, the entire world is projected out of your Presence. If there is no Presence in the body, who will talk about the gods and goddesses or anything?
Nothing. So, you are the central point of this world. So, to identify the world, your Presence is required. Therefore, I’m inviting attention to that invisible Presence within you. You have tremendous energy, don’t neglect it, don’t underestimate it. That is the most important thing and for which there is nothing to do. Just a little bit of deliberate exercise, in the beginning, in the initial stage, meditation. Because through meditation you can identify your Self. Without meditation it is not possible. Why is meditation required? Because so many layers of illusionary concepts are there. So many layers of illusionary concepts are there. You are to discard all these concepts. For which you may read the books, but when you are reading books, what you are reading is the reader’s story. Hmm? But not to read those books which will distract you from the reality. Because some books are saying things down and down and down do this thing do that thing. What special exercise is required? Not to do anything, (some books say) “You do this thing you do that thing”. Because you are not doer, there is no deed at all. So, all these concepts are developed in certain books and you are not to read books that distract you from the reality. Read “I Am That”, Ramana Maharshi’s (books) and some other books also, which directly invite attention of the listener or reader. So, there is nothing to do because I can go on talking and talking it is the same principle I am talking about with you. So be with you all the time, but be sincere, because again I am repeating, this body is a golden opportunity for you. If you lose the opportunity, or if you take it casually not seriously, there is the possibility of another dream, and we don’t want another dream this is the last destination. There should not be another dream of birth and death. As a matter of fact, there is no birth and death at all. You are omnipresent, your presence is everywhere just like space or sky. So, don’t ignore it. After knowing the reality, be in touch with your Self. That’s enough. Hmm? Does anyone want to ask a question?
Q: I just want to ask about the Mantra, you say on the YouTube talk that you gave that doing the Mantra was the initial stage, does the Mantra become automatic?
M: Yea, Yea, in the beginning you have to recite it, you have to hammer it and then afterward it will be automatic, you won’t have to concentrate on the concentrator. In the beginning we say to concentrate on the concentrator. What is the concentrator? Presence. The invisible Presence within you on which we say to concentrate on concentrator. In the beginning it is duality. But after having that exercise, duality disappears. So invisible Presence, the unidentified Presence within you is the concentrator. When you are sitting alone, see what is inside: glimpses of “I”. We are just experiencing glimpses of “I”. That is called the invisible concentrator. So, concentrate on the concentrator then the concentrator will disappear. Nothing will remain. So, in the beginning you have to study. Don’t worry, nothing will happen. What I have told follow strictly. Hmm? Not to allow so many unnecessary doubts, because mind creates so many doubts. (Q: The Mantra has power) The Mantra has tremendous power, the Mantra is having tremendous power, it came from Dattatreya and it has tremendous power. It creates vibrations and all the layers of concepts will be melted. You’ll feel it. Miracles…there is no miracle, nobody is doing any miracles… What do you mean by miracles it is beyond imagination, things that happen that are beyond imagination are called miracles. But it is a body-based concept, so not to give so much importance to miracles. You are beyond miracles, because these are body-based concepts. So, try to identify, and after trying to identify, the identifier disappears. Yes?
Q: So when we work with the Mantra, you mentioned that there are many layers of ignorance… (M: Yea Yea) that would be in the subconscious, that material in the subconscious is concepts and the Mantra helps to release those. Does the Mantra help to refine…?
M: The Mantra removes all these things, all layers. The Mantra will remove all layers that appear upon your Presence (Q: Yea) because so many layers are there, therefore it is not visible. Just like suppose a fire is there but it is covered with the ashes. Inside fire is there but it is covered with ashes… after removing these ashes, you will see there is fire. Similarly, energy is there, fire is there, it is covered with so many concepts. Mantra is cleaning it. Mantra is making purification. Hmm? Mantra is having tremendous power and, in the beginning, only, after using the Mantra (all concepts will be cleaned away), the duty of the Mantra is to remove all these things, it is a spiritual broom. You know broom? It is a broom. Cleaning everything. It is a spiritual duster. It is vanishing everything. But you must have some patience. Some people say, “I have taken Mantra and it has no effect”. It is not like that. Suppose you are pouring water, it is absorbing and then it is flowing. It is not immediately flowing. It will take some time. It depends on your involvement. How serious you are about it. Don’t take it casually… we are not to spend a single penny, no garland nothing is there. Hmm? No condition nothing is there. No bondage is there. Hmm? So, this is free of charge, it is totally free… not to consider yourself handicapped, “How will it happen?” No nothing is impossible. Hmm? So, human body is not your identity at all, that reality is supposed to be accepted. It’s fact. We are not accepting because of impressions of the body-based knowledge.
Q: Can Mantra be repeated when you are walking?
M: Yea, yea, all the time even when you go to the toilet. There is no restriction, it is part and parcel of your spiritual life. And through Mantra, you are inviting attention, “You are Brahman, you are Brahman, you are Brahman, I am Brahman, Brahman I am”. The meaning of the Mantra is “I am Brahman, Brahman I am, I am Brahman, Brahman I am”, because the spirit is very sensitive. What you impress it reflects. Hmm? Considering this fact, the Mantra is given. Through Mantra you are hammering all the time “You are Brahman you are Brahman”. So, like that, until you get conviction, spontaneous conviction, you have to undergo Mantra, then that Mantra will be automatic without your knowledge. Even when you are in deep sleep, Mantra is going on. So, see the fun and concentrate with you, miracles are with you, see the miracles. You’ll find some exceptional experiences within you. All spiritual experiences are progressive steps, not Ultimate Truth. How were you prior to beingness? Nothing was there. No miracles are there. After leaving body what miracles remain? Nothing. Ok.
Q: So, when we are reciting the Mantra, we should not ask “Who am I?” or “What am I?”
M: Not to ask, be simple. (Q: Just do the Mantra) What I have told you, you just have to accept it. Not to put any questions or doubts. When we say, “through Mantra meditate it”, meditate it. Not to create anymore because mind is playing very crazy part, creating some doubts “Oh”. So, continue to find out your Presence and reality, reality is within you. Just exercise that Mantra meditation, and you’ll see the reality, what is there. Reality is not separate from you. You are reality, Ultimate Truth. I am repeatedly repeating the same thing. Except your Selfless Self nothing is there. Your Presence is just like space or sky. Does the sky die? Does sky have any birth or death? Any question there? Does sky have mind ego intellect? Nothing is there. Mind ego and intellect are all concepts related to body knowledge. Body requires peacefulness, body requires happiness. But if you forget the body, just imagine, because Presence knows itself through body only. Presence is unknown. The invisible Presence through which you’re talking, through which you’re listening, through which you’re walking, taking all body-based experience, always energy is there. Hmm? Just like electricity. If there is no electricity, no light can be there. So, like that, there is invisible energy, power, which is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, That you are. But you’re not accepting the reality of life because you are having more faith in mind, ego, intellect. Not to go anywhere to find out Master, why to go to that Master to that Master? What will they do? Nothing. They have their own concepts. So not to become a victim of anybody’s concepts. Spiritual knowledge is not a concept, it is reality I am placing before you. Therefore, as my Master Nisargadatta Maharaj says: “I am not making you a disciple, I’m making you a Master”. Masterly Essence is within you… Ok.
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